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Title: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: F1REFLY999 on September 06, 2017, 11:24:02 am
Ryanair just changed their checked bag policy - and it could cost you extra

http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/travel/ryanair-just-changed-luggage-policy-11119988#ICID=Android_DailyRecordNewsApp_AppShare
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: dagwood on September 06, 2017, 14:24:46 pm
Not before time.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Can the Man on September 06, 2017, 14:40:39 pm
Not necessarily, it will be a good thing, far too many people taking advantage of the 2 bags, some of these 2nd bags are as big as the first bag.

I also think they need to adopt a policy of charging people for holding up people getting on the plane by not knowing what's in their bag before the put it in the luggage locker, then they have to get up again and take it out, root around for what they want,  and put the gag  back up, we all have experienced these people, they should be charged or thrown off the plane, BE PROPERLY ORGANISED BEFORE YOU GET ON.

http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-axes-free-10kg-carryon-bags-for-all-but-priority-boarding-passengers-36105074.html
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: dagwood on September 06, 2017, 16:56:19 pm
Not necessarily, it will be a good thing, far too many people taking advantage of the 2 bags, some of these 2nd bags are as big as the first bag.

I also think they need to adopt a policy of charging people for holding up people getting on the plane by not knowing what's in their bag before the put it in the luggage locker, then they have to get up again and take it out, root around for what they want,  and put the gag  back up, we all have experienced these people, they should be charged or thrown off the plane, BE PROPERLY ORGANISED BEFORE YOU GET ON.

http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-axes-free-10kg-carryon-bags-for-all-but-priority-boarding-passengers-36105074.html
I don't agree Can.
Myself and her indoors play a little game picking out the ones that are the most likely to start pulling stuff from their bags. We did notice its mostly men but maybe their only obeying orders from a higher authority. It passes the time while the last to arrive peoples bags are touring the plane for a bit of space and I also have to watch my bag as smart alecks attempted to move it on a few occasions. The words " Don't even think about it" works wonders.
By the way this happens on Aer Lingus too.     
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on September 06, 2017, 18:09:04 pm
Just another way of increasing their profit. No need to do this. I agree some people take the p*ss with the size of their bags but each Ryanair desk has a bag sizer, all they have to do is use it consistently & refuse (or surcharge) oversized bags. People would soon get the message. That would still get them extra revenue !!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: annalivia on September 06, 2017, 18:15:32 pm
You can still bring your 10kg bag for free but when you get to the gate it will be out in the hold.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: dagwood on September 06, 2017, 19:06:11 pm
Well Ryanair flights are uasually over 90% full this is approximately 170 passengers and only room for 90 normal sized bags. Now you don't need to be a genus to work it out.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on September 07, 2017, 05:08:35 am
Nothing new there. The problem was the over sized second bags people kept trying to fit into the overhead instead of under the seats.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Archer on September 07, 2017, 08:16:56 am
I don't see the problem. Why not just enforce the size/weight rules at the gate. I've never seen too many bags for the overheads...just a reorganisation as some selfish people think it their entitlement to put 2 bags overhead...and even their hat in the bin on it's own!
I think this may backfire on Ryanair. It's not the cost of luggage, but the wait at the belt. Now anyyone who doesn't pay for Priority boarding will now have to wait at the belt for their hand luggage bag. Nightmare!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on September 07, 2017, 09:10:26 am
I don't see the problem. Why not just enforce the size/weight rules at the gate. I've never seen too many bags for the overheads...just a reorganisation as some selfish people think it their entitlement to put 2 bags overhead...and even their hat in the bin on it's own!
I think this may backfire on Ryanair. It's not the cost of luggage, but the wait at the belt. Now anyyone who doesn't pay for Priority boarding will now have to wait at the belt for their hand luggage bag. Nightmare!

Completely agree Archer 👍👍👍
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Villan on January 07, 2018, 12:01:25 pm
This new policy was deferred until this year. Has anyone flown this year and either witnessed or experienced the change?
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Windermeregolfer on January 07, 2018, 17:49:54 pm
Not flown yet, but just booked whilst here on Fuerteventura a return to UK flight for April and reserving extra leg room seats no longer includes priority boarding so Priority Boarding now costs an extra 5€ which includes a guaranteed in cabin bag and a hand bag / laptop computer bag.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Logitechtom on January 07, 2018, 17:52:49 pm
My boarding pass for tomorrow says these changes are effective from tomorrow, that is the 8th January.

Not an issue for us as we always observe the baggage rules but we hope that this will be enforced.

Tom.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Villan on January 07, 2018, 18:39:26 pm
My boarding pass for tomorrow says these changes are effective from tomorrow, that is the 8th January.

Not an issue for us as we always observe the baggage rules but we hope that this will be enforced.

Tom.

Thanks Tom. I acknowledge that this will not affect you but would welcome your observations on the new policy/process once you have witnessed the implementation.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 07, 2018, 21:41:35 pm
We are flying back on the 9th so will report back after that 😀😀
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 08, 2018, 07:07:12 am
The change is the 15th isn't it?

But the change is only for people without priority boarding. All the change really means is your carry on gets gate checked. I wouldn't pack anything valuable into that bag but that's just me
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Villan on January 08, 2018, 09:48:49 am
The exact impact and process is not clear. The initial wording from Ryanair suggests that purchasing priority boarding GUARANTEES being able to take hand luggage on board. So does that mean if you are at the front of the non priority boarding queue you may still be allowed to take luggage on up to a specified number of passengers? or will all non priority hand luggage have to go in the hold? Where is it taken off you? At the departure gate? At the plane? Thus my request for feedback on how it works in practice. 
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 08, 2018, 11:33:59 am
https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/plan-trip/flying-with-us/baggage-policy

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All other customers will only be permitted to bring one smaller carry-on bag on board the aircraft, while their second larger wheelie bag must be placed in the hold at the boarding gate (free of charge).

Only priority, Plus, Flexi Plus, or Family Plus will be allowed to board with both bags. I've seen comments from Ryanair about refusing boarding to anybody not gate checking.

OTOH until it happens we won't know for sure.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 08, 2018, 13:10:51 pm
The initial wording from Ryanair suggests that purchasing priority boarding GUARANTEES being able to take hand luggage on board.

It doesn't.  It says "Due to cabin space limitations only 90 large cabin bags (55 x 40 x 20 cms) can be carried in the cabin, any bags remaining will be carried free of charge in the aircraft hold. Passengers who have purchased Priority Boarding will not be asked to place their cabin bag in the aircraft hold, unless necessary due to operational reasons."  That means that if there are more than 90 Priority passengers, some of them will get their bags put in the hold.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: fatherted on January 08, 2018, 13:58:25 pm
When I used Ryanair pre xmas and the new ruling coming into force it was noticeable that a lot of passengers with small solid cases had to put their items into the hold whereas rucksacks and other bags were being allowed onboard. A women in front of me had paid to guarantee being able to take her small case on board but was refused due to the number of passengers who had already boarded with carry on bags etc. When she questioned the staff at the gate she was met with a shrug of the shoulders and told her bags would have to go in the hold despite her showing proof of payment. ??????
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Villan on January 08, 2018, 14:05:32 pm
At the time of the initial announcement last September Ryanair's Chief Marketing Officer said in an interview, that the priority boarding fee "guaranteed" passengers could take the luggage on board. This was exactly the same wording used by Jet2 in their press announcement a couple of months earlier when they announced fees for hand luggage.  I was about to travel immediately after the initial implementation date so called Ryanair to clarify . They advised me that the new process was "not completely finalised and may lead to a delay in implementation", which is what happened. I note from that  cabin baggage policy (link posted by Will) suggests that even if there are less than 90 priority boarders (i.e. less than 90 pieces of hand luggage) non priority luggage will be tagged at the boarding gate regardless and placed in the hold. However, it would be comforting to get first hand feedback from forum members travelling of their observations of new process so I can pack and prepare accordingly.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: F1REFLY999 on January 08, 2018, 18:55:16 pm
When I flew with Jet2 in November I paid extra for guaranteed cabin luggage...no one even asked  or checked my ticket. I think this just another way to get additional funds from hand luggage only passengers who can't be bothered waiting at the carousel.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Logitechtom on January 08, 2018, 20:41:45 pm
I arrived from Birmingham about three hours ago.

As far as I can tell, there was absolutely no difference with the boarding process.  Priority customers and some non-priority got cases on board, others had cases taken from them at the steps of the plane to go into the hold. 

Still had passengers with cases larger than allowed, still had passengers with over-sized second bags and some with THIRD bags, frankly, couldn't notice any difference at all.

Tom.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 10, 2018, 01:33:41 am
Just back in Scotland tonight. We were near the end of the queue so not sure what happened at the beginning but our carry on bags were checked into the hold with no options, just straight off tag the bag by the girl checking boarding cards, she didn’t even ask if we were happy with that
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: duncolm on January 10, 2018, 08:41:30 am
We came in on Jet2 from Glasgow yesterday, carrying full sized cabin backpacks. No one looked twice at our luggage and I didn't see any sign of handluggage being taken from anyone else.
That said, although the flight was almost full there still seemed to be space in the overhead lockers.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Deso on January 10, 2018, 16:49:04 pm
Starts on 15th January apparently,

https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/plan-trip/flying-with-us/baggage-policy
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Logitechtom on January 11, 2018, 09:21:46 am
Had this on an email from Ryanair last night regarding my flight mid-May (but not for my February and March flights):

   
Non-Priority: If you have not purchased Priority & 2 Cabin Bags, you are only permitted to bring 1 small bag on board. Your second 10kg bag will be tagged at the gate and put into the hold free of charge.

Priority & 2 Cabin Bags (previously Priority Boarding): Only customers who have purchased Priority & 2 Cabin Bags, Flexi Plus, Plus or Family Plus will be permitted to bring both of their cabin bags on board.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 11, 2018, 14:21:47 pm
Had this on an email from Ryanair last night regarding my flight mid-May (but not for my February and March flights):

   
Non-Priority: If you have not purchased Priority & 2 Cabin Bags, you are only permitted to bring 1 small bag on board. Your second 10kg bag will be tagged at the gate and put into the hold free of charge.

Priority & 2 Cabin Bags (previously Priority Boarding): Only customers who have purchased Priority & 2 Cabin Bags, Flexi Plus, Plus or Family Plus will be permitted to bring both of their cabin bags on board.

I got that as well. Another distinct change in policy, no wording here about being in the first 90 for hand baggage if not priority booked so I assume it is a definite NO to any carry on 55x40 case in the cabin without priority+2 booking.
Personally, I don’t think they will win on that one. Some people rushed to the front of the queue to get their bags into the first 90, now they won’t bother. We had already decided to hand ours up anyway, it only takes an extra 10 minutes to get back at the conveyor in most cases. With allocated seating there is no point rushing. IMHO
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Archer on January 11, 2018, 14:52:55 pm
The airline that gets the hand luggage issue sorted will win the most customers! They are turning this into a nightmare.
We flew BA recently and their 'anything goes' approach just ended in chaos and delays departing. I also used to like RA's policy of one 55x40 plus one under the seat. But not now.
Customer abuse of the system has made them all rethink their policies, which inevitably leads to more charges, or delays loading/unloading, or having to wait at the carousel. More than 10mins at LGW.
WHY can't they just go back to enforcing the simple rule: 1 × 55x40 in the overhead and nothing else up there....all the rest under the seat. Surely it can't so hard to mark the carry-ons destined for the luggage bins, and then chuck out everything else. Those who do not co-operate automatically have their bags taken into the hold.
Get it right and you will win a lot of customer support. From me, anyway!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 11, 2018, 15:18:36 pm
The airline that gets the hand luggage issue sorted will win the most customers! They are turning this into a nightmare.
We flew BA recently and their 'anything goes' approach just ended in chaos and delays departing. I also used to like RA's policy of one 55x40 plus one under the seat. But not now.
Customer abuse of the system has made them all rethink their policies, which inevitably leads to more charges, or delays loading/unloading, or having to wait at the carousel. More than 10mins at LGW.
WHY can't they just go back to enforcing the simple rule: 1 × 55x40 in the overhead and nothing else up there....all the rest under the seat. Surely it can't so hard to mark the carry-ons destined for the luggage bins, and then chuck out everything else. Those who do not co-operate automatically have their bags taken into the hold.
Get it right and you will win a lot of customer support. From me, anyway!

It is an issue that will keep recurring without some kind of policy like the new one. They initially wanted people to stop booking on bags & go with hand baggage to speed up turn around times but didn’t recognise that if people took to it they would be trying to fit 196 carry on bags into bins for roughly 100 !! Now when people are used to holidaying with carry on bags they want to change it all again !! Absolute nightmare !! Like I said, we will just not be shoehorned into additional booking addons & hand our carry on bags for the hold, if it wasn’t that my wife is not good at flying then I wouldn’t even book seats !! Play them at their own game, I say !!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 11, 2018, 15:24:35 pm

WHY can't they just go back to enforcing the simple rule: 1 × 55x40 in the overhead and nothing else up there....all the rest under the seat.

Simply because there isn't enough room in the overhead bins!  With 189 seats, the bins perhaps have capacity for 100 bags (or a few more on the latest versions of the 737).
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Archer on January 11, 2018, 15:34:47 pm
Not the case. Not everyone brings 55x40 carry ons. I have travelled many times and observed the fiasco. Everything will fit...more than 90, if they observe the simple rules.
Where do you get 90 from? That's just RA sugtesting this as the limit.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Archer on January 11, 2018, 15:45:04 pm
By the way, the new generation of 737's carry nearly 200 cases. The bins have been redesigned to carry the standard bag on it's side! Anyone got these planes or the upgrade on order??
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Ernie on January 11, 2018, 16:06:54 pm
Roughly speaking on the standard RA 737s one bin spans about three rows or nine seats, and one bin will only hold three or perhaps four cases. The numbers don’t add up if everyone decided to carry on the largest allowed size. It has been great for years but I guess all good things come to an end.

The fun will start when there are more people paying for Priority than there are spaces in the lockers. But I doubt I’ll be one of them until I have a nightmare waiting at the carousel and vow never to go “Other Q” again.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Villan on January 11, 2018, 17:04:22 pm
I used to research the likely departure gate and position ourselves accordingly whilst waiting for the flight to be called,  board amongst the first non priority passengers then settle into our seats quickly. Now, no point in any of that, more chilled, slow approach to boarding.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 11, 2018, 21:45:20 pm


The fun will start when there are more people paying for Priority than there are spaces in the lockers.

The extra cases will just go in the hold, as Ryanair's T&Cs state.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 12, 2018, 06:26:41 am
By the way, the new generation of 737's carry nearly 200 cases. The bins have been redesigned to carry the standard bag on it's side! Anyone got these planes or the upgrade on order??

I'm fairly sure Ryanair has order these planes. But don't they have more seats also?
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 12, 2018, 06:28:52 am
That's just RA sugtesting this as the limit.

They aren't suggesting that's their limit. Their plane their rules.

The problem isn't just the space it's the time people take. Watch how long people waste first boarding then disembarking.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 12, 2018, 08:50:21 am
By the way, the new generation of 737's carry nearly 200 cases. The bins have been redesigned to carry the standard bag on it's side! Anyone got these planes or the upgrade on order??

I'm fairly sure Ryanair has order these planes. But don't they have more seats also?

There are already some in use. Was on one a few weeks ago on a trip to Dublin. The bins have been redesigned & appear to be much bigger & easier to use. The seats are also thinner (by a couple of inches) but seem more comfortable, not sure if that means they have fitted in an extra row or two
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 12, 2018, 11:57:43 am
I've been on those to. I thought he meant the new 737 max

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-buys-another-10-boeing-737-max-200s-bringing-firm-orders-to-110-with-100-options-outstanding/

These aren't in service yet are they?
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 12, 2018, 15:58:20 pm
I've been on those to. I thought he meant the new 737 max

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-buys-another-10-boeing-737-max-200s-bringing-firm-orders-to-110-with-100-options-outstanding/

These aren't in service yet are they?

They must be a full new model then. I thought it was just an upgrade on the existing 737-800. I stand corrected 😁😁
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 12, 2018, 16:44:25 pm
The bigger "Space Bins" are on the 737 MAX.  Ryanair have 110 of these on order, but won't get any until 2019.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: fatherted on January 12, 2018, 17:41:35 pm
http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/passengers-face-50-ryanair-fine-14145085

Just pleased I'm not flying with Ryanair on Monday, it'll be absolute carnage. The Ryanair staff will have very sore fingers after counting all them £50 notes or using the card machines.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: paully on January 12, 2018, 17:42:23 pm
The newer 737-800`s were delivered with what is called the sculptured interior. The main differences from the older models are the luggage bins which are easier to use and can take more in the way of hand luggage than the older versions. The ceiling lighting is also different, but difficult to describe. A bit more pleasant than before.

  Ryanair are already operating some of these and the new 800`s of Jet2 are all like this..hence where I`ve seen them from.

   Not sure what the `Max` interiors will be like.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Johnrgby2 on January 12, 2018, 17:56:26 pm

The interior of a 737 Max, as operated by Southwest Airlines, does not mean Dire Air,s will look anything like this :D


(https://i.imgur.com/TIrlj9L.jpg)
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: F1REFLY999 on January 12, 2018, 18:36:18 pm
Travelled with Jet2 in November on one of there newier planes...as described mood lighting and bigger overhead bins does in my opinion make for a more pleasant flight  ;D
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 12, 2018, 18:37:54 pm
The new 737s are nice. The seats look like they wouldn't be but they are nice. Feels like more room overall. If the max are better  ;D
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 12, 2018, 21:46:29 pm

The interior of a 737 Max, as operated by Southwest Airlines, does not mean Dire Air,s will look anything like this :D


(https://i.imgur.com/TIrlj9L.jpg)

Thanks for the pic John. That is what we were in on a Ryanair flight from Edinburgh to Dublin in mid December so they must have got some early. It did feel slightly more spacious & the seats were comfortable, bins were much bigger & easier to access as well. Only issue I saw was that when they are open they hang a bit lower so have to duck a bit getting out of the seat. They are also shorter. The old bins covered I think three seats whereas these only cover two
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Windermeregolfer on January 17, 2018, 09:07:36 am
We flew on Monday back to Manchester, when making the reservation always book front row extra leg room seats which up until recently have given automatic priority boarding so usually one of the first on the plane.  Have to say on Monday it was noticeable how few hand luggage carry on bags (correct size or not) came into the cabin and the captain announce we will depart once the gate bags are loaded, so it appears they are starting to implement the new policy.
We were not asked about putting our hand luggage in the hold so had no problem with our bags being in the locker above us which gave for a speedy exit from Manchester airport, not a sole, apart from staff, in Passport control when we got there  so landed and in the airport train station in under 25 minutes.

Slightly off subject but to do with Ryan air prices our flight in April back to UK with usual front row seats and priority boarding, paid for extra, have cost us £49.10 each to travel 1817miles. On Monday as we were on time we could have caught an earlier train to Windermere than the one booked and paid for in advance  but they wanted an extra £34 each to travel the 95miles on the earlier train!!!!!  So RA prices are in my opinion good value for money when you use them as a commuter service as we tend consider we are doing.   
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 17, 2018, 10:41:23 am
Prices really depend on the route ,time of year and when you book. They can be exceptionally cheap or they can be no less then everybody else. Problem is on some routes you don't have any other choice
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: fatherted on January 17, 2018, 10:54:19 am
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/ryanair-bag-policy-latest-passengers-carry-on-luggage-cabin-hold-budget-airline-a8159481.html
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: HH on January 19, 2018, 15:08:47 pm
I am going to Marrakech and this is what I received on an email:

You're entitled to bring 1 small personal bag (35cm x 20cm x 20cm) on board which must fit under the seat in front of you. If you want to bring 2 cabin bags on board you must add Priority & 2 Cabin Bags. If you arrive at the gate with 2 cabin bags, and you haven't purchased Priority & 2 Cabin Bags, your second bag will be taken off you and put in the hold free of charge.
Add Priority & 2 Cabin Bags


I hate to wait for bags on a short holiday so will gladly pay the fees. 
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 19, 2018, 15:39:15 pm
Just checked in for flight out Tuesday & it gives numerous “opportunities” to “save yourself time, hassle etc” by booking this or that as extras, really pushing it !! On boarding card on a red box it says “NON-PRIORITY 1 SMALL BAG”

I have a booked in 20kg package so don’t care about having to retrieve bags & travelling on my own so not bothered about seating either 😀😀😀
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: sungod on January 24, 2018, 18:48:14 pm
I wish they would enforce the rule that the personal item (smaller bag) should go under the seat. That would save a lot of space in the overhead bins.

Really annoying when people early on the plane and they put both bags, jackets and other stuff in the overhead bin.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: DaveW on January 28, 2018, 10:37:50 am
I came flew out last Wednesday with Ryanair.  The gate was announced earlier than normal. Any person in the non priority queue with a large carry on bag had it tagged and moved to the hold. I did notice a lot more people were in the priority queue for this flight!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: fatherted on January 28, 2018, 11:33:42 am
I  travelled on Wed to LBA and the only thing I noticed was there was more room in the bins and possibly more people putting their small bags under the seats. I used Jet2 yesterday and it appeared to be the same as Fr.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 28, 2018, 11:48:09 am
Flew back from Fuerte yesterday. The gate was called earlier than previously & all bags from non priority were tagged. No rush to get at the head of the queue now & seems to be more priority boarders so they are making money !! They don’t look at backpacks though, it only seems to be hard cases. We were sitting fully boarded for ages before doors were closed & ready to go, same as the flight out. I think it is taking much longer to get ready with all the extra hold luggage. The Flight was about 2/3 full but bins were far from full, most people using for coats, small bags etc. I think this has been a right c*ck-up on RA’s part, except for the increase in priority boarders which is what they wanted to increase their revenue !! All this has done is increase their on the ground time & if they are not in the air they are not making money, they must also be paying more for ground services which the additional baggage loading !!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: zedzedeleven on January 30, 2018, 13:33:55 pm
Voted  with my feet for my next flights, going tommy cook  (gawd help me) attracted by the early flight out but FR has deliberately complicated their luggage rules to the point of total obfuscation. It has a parallel with the old "steaming" tactic of robbery, where a gang first bumps pushes and jostles their victim into a state of confusion before stealing their wallet.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 30, 2018, 16:19:02 pm
Voted  with my feet for my next flights, going tommy cook  (gawd help me) attracted by the early flight out but FR has deliberately complicated their luggage rules to the point of total obfuscation.

Surely Thomas Cook is just as complex as Ryanair?  You have either 6kg or 10kg of hand luggage.  You can book hold bags at extra cost.  You can reserve seats at extra cost.  Not much difference, except Thomas Cook generally has much less legroom.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 30, 2018, 18:24:17 pm
I see RA have also “slipped in” a seat booking cost increase on the quiet as well !! Just looked at booking for August this year & lowest seat price up from £3 to £5.24 & that is with 25% off so regular price would be over £6 !! That is a 100% increase !!!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 30, 2018, 18:41:43 pm
I see RA have also “slipped in” a seat booking cost increase on the quiet as well !! Just looked at booking for August this year & lowest seat price up from £3 to £5.60 & that is with 25% off so regular price would be over £6 !! That is a 100% increase !!!

Easyjet charge at least £4.99 for reserved seats, Thomas Cook charge at least £13.00, so I don't think Ryanair are particularly expensive.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 30, 2018, 19:03:07 pm
I see RA have also “slipped in” a seat booking cost increase on the quiet as well !! Just looked at booking for August this year & lowest seat price up from £3 to £5.60 & that is with 25% off so regular price would be over £6 !! That is a 100% increase !!!

Easyjet charge at least £4.99 for reserved seats, Thomas Cook charge at least £13.00, so I don't think Ryanair are particularly expensive.

The comparison with other airline charges was not my point bedouin. It was the %age of the increase !! It is heading closer to the “extras” (if you call them non essential) will be costing as much as the cheapest flight !! Cheapest flight from Scotland I have seen is £19.99 & now the “extras” will be approx minimum £12 or £13
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 30, 2018, 19:09:36 pm

The comparison with other airline charges was not my point bedouin. It was the %age of the increase !! It is heading closer to the “extras” (if you call them non essential) will be costing as much as the cheapest flight !! Cheapest flight from Scotland I have seen is £19.99 & now the “extras” will be approx minimum £12 or £13

So?  It's still incredibly cheap travel, in good planes with good legroom, and with an airline which has an enviable safety record. Percentage increases are meaningless, it's the bottom line which counts.  If you can fly cheaper with someone else, at convenient times, then book elsewhere.  That's what the rest of us do.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: Will196 on January 31, 2018, 06:14:05 am
I saw something on the news yesterday that they've unbundled priority seating. You can now have an upfront seat but no priority. Sounds like a potential mess.

They also mentioned selling only 110 priority per plane. Only 110? 90 spots for carry ons and they sell 110?

I think they're pushing people towards booking priority plus or whatever they call it now.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 31, 2018, 09:47:01 am
I saw something on the news yesterday that they've unbundled priority seating. You can now have an upfront seat but no priority. Sounds like a potential mess.

They also mentioned selling only 110 priority per plane. Only 110? 90 spots for carry ons and they sell 110?

I think they're pushing people towards booking priority plus or whatever they call it now.

We were on one of the new upgraded 737-800’s a few weeks ago & they can hold way more than 90 bags in the bins so it is the normal with RyanAir, push push push for more “essential” addons while keeping the prices as low as possible. I understand their tactics, just don’t agree with their way of looking at passengers as wallets to be stripped !!
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 31, 2018, 10:25:24 am

We were on one of the new upgraded 737-800’s a few weeks ago & they can hold way more than 90 bags in the bins so it is the normal with RyanAir, push push push for more “essential” addons while keeping the prices as low as possible. I understand their tactics, just don’t agree with their way of looking at passengers as wallets to be stripped !!

A distinguishing factor of Ryanair's business model, and something which helps keep fares low, is their ultra-rapid turnround times.  The ridiculous way people were messing about trying to find locker space for their bags delayed boarding and slowed the whole thing down.  By deliberately restricting the number of cabin bags, boarding should be quicker and fast turnround times should be routinely achieved.  You don't have to pay for Priority, they'll put your bag in the hold for free, so how are they stripping people's wallets?
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 31, 2018, 11:02:20 am

We were on one of the new upgraded 737-800’s a few weeks ago & they can hold way more than 90 bags in the bins so it is the normal with RyanAir, push push push for more “essential” addons while keeping the prices as low as possible. I understand their tactics, just don’t agree with their way of looking at passengers as wallets to be stripped !!

A distinguishing factor of Ryanair's business model, and something which helps keep fares low, is their ultra-rapid turnround times.  The ridiculous way people were messing about trying to find locker space for their bags delayed boarding and slowed the whole thing down.  By deliberately restricting the number of cabin bags, boarding should be quicker and fast turnround times should be routinely achieved.  You don't have to pay for Priority, they'll put your bag in the hold for free, so how are they stripping people's wallets?

Just flown 3 times with RA in January, you obviously didn’t read my post through. The standing times at the gate have INCREASED with this new bag policy & it can only be down to the length of time it is taking to load all the carry on bags to the hold. In fact leaving Fuerte at the weekend we used the sky gate to board which meant all carry on bags were left with a ground crew at the last turn before entering the aircraft. These bags have to be carried down the stairs, loaded to a cart, taken to the hold door & loaded on the aircraft, obviously this takes time, we were sitting fully boarded for at least 20 mins while this happened. Flight left on time but we were called a 1/2 hr earlier than normal & that only worked as the in flight was early on a tail wind. If (as normally happens) the gate is called late then the flight would have left late !! It was actually the case on the flight out, sat for at least 20 to 30 mins fully boarded with doors open & left roughly 1/2hr late.

As for “stripping wallets” all you have to do is look at the psychology of their marketing, ie, if you don’t book “this” you won’t get “that” & year by year this is becoming more prevalent. You now can’t sit together unless you book seats. You now can’t get a fast exit from airport unless you book priority. What next !!! As I said, the initial cost of the ticket is having less & less to do with the final price.

I appreciate bedouin that you can see no wrong in RA & you are fully entitled to your opinion but surely you can take an unblinkered look at the tactics 🙂🙂🙂
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: raye on January 31, 2018, 11:41:41 am
We have flown many times with Ryanair and Jet 2. Jet 2 is the preferred choice as many of the passengers are on package holidays and as a result hold luggage is included, which means fewer bags in the cabin bins. However, Jet 2 prices are usually more expensive than Ryanair, even when you add on Ryanair's Priority boarding and Seat selection. Just booked to come over the end of Feb and total price including Priority and Seats is still only £84 return per person. It would have been just over £60 without Priority and Seats, but we prefer to pay the extra. It is a matter of personal choice and for the time being at least there is a choice! Ultimately they are running a business and and which ever way you cut it they still offer incredible value compared with any form of travel within the UK. Just avoid buying any drinks on the flight, which in my opinion are a complete rip-off!! 
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: fatherted on January 31, 2018, 11:54:19 am
I was on last Weds flight to LBA that had an original dep time 12.05. The incoming flight was delayed and instead of arriving @ 11.30 the plane arrived at 12.20 meaning the new dept time would be 13.10. The monitor above gates 7/8 illuminated at about 11.20 and people as usual rushed to the gate (some even knowing about the new arrival/dept times). The staff opened their desk some time later and proceeded to check and tag the bags to go in the hold even before the incoming plane had landed thereby gaining valuable turnaround time. How come the original turnaround time was 35mins but it actually was 50mins on the stand?
ps. We were all loaded and ready to go when the Cpt informed us the m/c that starts the aircraft engines had broken down but there would be another m/c there in 5 mins (ha ha). We actually took off 30 mins late, but to be fair and give credit where credits due we arrived in LBA only 55mins later than the proper arr time. Well done Cpt.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: F1REFLY999 on January 31, 2018, 12:29:49 pm
Having looked at what flight extras I have purchased for my upcoming flights to Fuerteventura, I have to say that Thomas Cook shows less value for money than Jet2 & Ryanair

Thomas Cook £25 for extra leg room (6Kg carry on) no option for priority

Jet2 £22 for extra leg room (10kg carry on) £2.50 for priority/guaranteed overhead space

Ryanair £20 (over the wing seat) for extra leg room (10Kg carry on) £5 for priority/guaranteed overhead space
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 31, 2018, 13:31:12 pm
Having looked at what flight extras I have purchased for my upcoming flights to Fuerteventura, I have to say that Thomas Cook shows less value for money than Jet2 & Ryanair

Thomas Cook £25 for extra leg room (6Kg carry on) no option for priority

Jet2 £22 for extra leg room (10kg carry on) £2.50 for priority/guaranteed overhead space

Ryanair £20 (over the wing seat) for extra leg room (10Kg carry on) £5 for priority/guaranteed overhead space

Hi Donald,
Not much between any of them really, apart from the 6kg @ TC.

It is a great pity that we have limited carriers from up in the “wilds” 🤣🤣

I always look at the options before booking & never find TC or J2 to be as good as RA.

I actually think RA do a great job TBH but I will always have the gripe that I don’t like their manipulation” of customers & certainly as agree with fathered as to never buying anything on board 😉😉😉
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: bedouin on January 31, 2018, 13:39:41 pm

As for “stripping wallets” all you have to do is look at the psychology of their marketing, ie, if you don’t book “this” you won’t get “that” & year by year this is becoming more prevalent. You now can’t sit together unless you book seats. You now can’t get a fast exit from airport unless you book priority. What next !!! As I said, the initial cost of the ticket is having less & less to do with the final price.

I appreciate bedouin that you can see no wrong in RA & you are fully entitled to your opinion but surely you can take an unblinkered look at the tactics 🙂🙂🙂

I can see a lot of wrong in Ryanair, and in many competitive airlines.  However, the way Ryanair market their flights isn't particularly different from any of the budget airlines, except Ryanair usually end up cheaper.  Like many people, you seem to be irrationally critical of Ryanair.  If you hate Ryanair so much, why do you keep using them?
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: F1REFLY999 on January 31, 2018, 13:47:21 pm
Having looked at what flight extras I have purchased for my upcoming flights to Fuerteventura, I have to say that Thomas Cook shows less value for money than Jet2 & Ryanair

Thomas Cook £25 for extra leg room (6Kg carry on) no option for priority

Jet2 £22 for extra leg room (10kg carry on) £2.50 for priority/guaranteed overhead space

Ryanair £20 (over the wing seat) for extra leg room (10Kg carry on) £5 for priority/guaranteed overhead space

Hi Donald,
Not much between any of them really, apart from the 6kg @ TC.

It is a great pity that we have limited carriers from up in the “wilds” 🤣🤣

I always look at the options before booking & never find TC or J2 to be as good as RA.

I actually think RA do a great job TBH but I will always have the gripe that I don’t like their manipulation” of customers & certainly as agree with fathered as to never buying anything on board 😉😉😉

Ron more than happy to travel with RA every time, play by their rules and you can't go wrong. ;D

The problem as you say is I am limited to certain carriers and with RA changing to a Tuesday fight during the summer months I have to use TC & J2 to maximise my time on the rock. 8)
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: zedzedeleven on January 31, 2018, 16:59:55 pm

As for “stripping wallets” all you have to do is look at the psychology of their marketing, ie, if you don’t book “this” you won’t get “that” & year by year this is becoming more prevalent. You now can’t sit together unless you book seats. You now can’t get a fast exit from airport unless you book priority. What next !!! As I said, the initial cost of the ticket is having less & less to do with the final price.

I appreciate bedouin that you can see no wrong in RA & you are fully entitled to your opinion but surely you can take an unblinkered look at the tactics 🙂🙂🙂

I can see a lot of wrong in Ryanair, and in many competitive airlines.  However, the way Ryanair market their flights isn't particularly different from any of the budget airlines, except Ryanair usually end up cheaper.  Like many people, you seem to be irrationally critical of Ryanair.  If you hate Ryanair so much, why do you keep using them?

I have been puzzled by the people that profess a pathological hatred of FR for a long time now, I used to think it was a "me too" thing, almost a desire to be seen to be one of the cognoscenti, and I suspect that, among the haters, there are some that have never even flown with them, just haven`t liked what they have seen of saint michael on the telly.
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: spitfire58 on January 31, 2018, 22:45:54 pm

As for “stripping wallets” all you have to do is look at the psychology of their marketing, ie, if you don’t book “this” you won’t get “that” & year by year this is becoming more prevalent. You now can’t sit together unless you book seats. You now can’t get a fast exit from airport unless you book priority. What next !!! As I said, the initial cost of the ticket is having less & less to do with the final price.

I appreciate bedouin that you can see no wrong in RA & you are fully entitled to your opinion but surely you can take an unblinkered look at the tactics 🙂🙂🙂

I can see a lot of wrong in Ryanair, and in many competitive airlines.  However, the way Ryanair market their flights isn't particularly different from any of the budget airlines, except Ryanair usually end up cheaper.  Like many people, you seem to be irrationally critical of Ryanair.  If you hate Ryanair so much, why do you keep using them?

Simply because like Firefly says, the options from Scotland are limited. I am not “irrationally critical” I see what is there to be seen & as I said, I like the service just not their methods. I like & dislike a lot of other things too & use them when I have a need to, doesn’t mean I don’t have a positive or negative opinion on them. RyanAir is just one that keeps popping up here, in fact I have flown RA about 12 times in the last year. Other carriers zero !! 😁😁
Title: Re: Ryanair new luggage policy
Post by: F1REFLY999 on January 31, 2018, 23:14:56 pm

As for “stripping wallets” all you have to do is look at the psychology of their marketing, ie, if you don’t book “this” you won’t get “that” & year by year this is becoming more prevalent. You now can’t sit together unless you book seats. You now can’t get a fast exit from airport unless you book priority. What next !!! As I said, the initial cost of the ticket is having less & less to do with the final price.

I appreciate bedouin that you can see no wrong in RA & you are fully entitled to your opinion but surely you can take an unblinkered look at the tactics 🙂🙂🙂

I can see a lot of wrong in Ryanair, and in many competitive airlines.  However, the way Ryanair market their flights isn't particularly different from any of the budget airlines, except Ryanair usually end up cheaper.  Like many people, you seem to be irrationally critical of Ryanair.  If you hate Ryanair so much, why do you keep using them?

Simply because like Firefly says, the options from Scotland are limited. I am not “irrationally critical” I see what is there to be seen & as I said, I like the service just not their methods. I like & dislike a lot of other things too & use them when I have a need to, doesn’t mean I don’t have a positive or negative opinion on them. RyanAir is just one that keeps popping up here, in fact I have flown RA about 12 times in the last year. Other carriers zero !! 😁😁

Like you Ron I would fly every time with RA but due to flight timetable changing I have to look elsewhere. 👍

And this is not about money....this is about accommodating my travel needs. Like you I'm never away from the place 😁