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Title: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on June 19, 2018, 10:27:34 am
Congratulations England on their win last night and good luck in the tournament.
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Post by: Johnrgby2 on June 19, 2018, 10:46:32 am
Congratulations England on their win last night and good luck in the tournament.

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH DAGWOOD??????

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: dagwood on June 19, 2018, 10:54:48 am
I drew the feckers in a buster. I suppose me €20 will be down the pan soon  😡😡😡.
But seriously I hope they do well.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 19, 2018, 11:56:03 am
Dream on daggie
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Post by: malabu on June 19, 2018, 15:28:50 pm
Why dream on, its gets to me when if England lose we are number two, if we win we where boring, just what do you people want, at leased daggie wished us all the best, and not told us to dream on
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 19, 2018, 15:51:42 pm
They were average. . In fact apart from the two goals we were pretty poor. No good saying they are looking like world beaters when they most definitely are not.

I'll be the first to cheer them on when or if they deserve it. On that showing they didn't and will struggle to beat Belgium.

It get's to me when people think mediocrity of £100,000 + a week players is acceptable.
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Post by: malabu on June 19, 2018, 17:06:35 pm
No team outstanding yet, but there countrymen are not putting them down,
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 19, 2018, 17:33:01 pm
I'm not interested in the rest of them. Just want England to improve to have a chance of going further. Not sure they have it in them...
...but I hope so
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Post by: Tamkid on June 19, 2018, 20:06:12 pm
Our YOUNG lads played really well against a dirty team which are renowned for being difficult to break down. It could have been 6-1, the finishing touches just let them down, probably the flies got in there eyes.

Our defence looks a little bit ropey, it will be interesting to see how well the back four/five do against Belgium.  We will definatly get through to the Quarters.

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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 19, 2018, 20:11:51 pm
Could have been 6-1 if we had anyone who could score other than Harry kane. Some of the finishing was atrocious and I'm not sure what Stirlings all about sometimes. They better pull their socks up all round if the want to  get anywhere near your target.

Having said that haven't seen an outstanding team yet apart from maybe Mexico's one performance.
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Post by: Tamkid on June 19, 2018, 21:43:22 pm
You must have missed the Spain vs Portugal match. Spain played some of the best football ever seen at a world cup. A jammy penalty, a keepers mistake and a truly BRILLIANT free kick outdone them, the team are a true class act in every department, you can allow even the best of keepers an odd mistake.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 19, 2018, 22:03:15 pm
Too early to tell after one game but class usually shines through. Certainly been some entertaining games.
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Post by: decho on June 20, 2018, 07:07:30 am
You must have missed the Spain vs Portugal match. Spain played some of the best football ever seen at a world cup. A jammy penalty, a keepers mistake and a truly BRILLIANT free kick outdone them, the team are a true class act in every department, you can allow even the best of keepers an odd mistake.
Indeed this was a fabulous game, so exciting and some superb football on show for the whole 90 minutes....and then of course there was that Ronaldo free kick.....Real Class!
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Post by: jill tie on June 20, 2018, 11:06:15 am
Dare to dream?  if we come first or 2nd in the group we will play the winners of group  H which is
looking like Japan and Senegal at the moment.  After that who knows.  The way I see it at least
Kanes not taking the corners which has to be a good thing.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 20, 2018, 11:22:26 am
Hate to be a party pooper and I hope I am totally wrong but I can see the first decent side England come up against will prove their downfall. Haven't seen anything yet from them that would change my mind. Dodgy defensively, a good quality striker will give them big problems, and a one man band up front.

But you never know, they could suddenly turn a corner..... ;)
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Post by: Tamkid on June 20, 2018, 14:23:13 pm
Apart from Spain, England have played better than any other team in the World Cup. Great team spirit, no pressure like the old days, and Southgate is proving all the critics wrong, he picked the team not the media as has been the case in the last four world cups. GOOD LUCK BOYS YOUR DOING US PROUD
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 20, 2018, 14:54:53 pm
They've only played one game. Bit early to set out the bunting and bring on the dancing girls.
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Post by: Tamkid on June 20, 2018, 16:15:14 pm
They don't have to play any games to fetch on the dancing girls, always a joy at anytime :D ;D ;D
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 24, 2018, 11:41:36 am
Soon going to find out if they are quarter final material.

Keeping the dancing girls on standby. ;)
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Post by: dagwood on June 24, 2018, 15:29:26 pm
Congratulations England great win
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Post by: Tamkid on June 24, 2018, 16:43:59 pm
After watching so many disappointing England performances over the years in the world cup (Iceland still hurts), it was a pure joy to watch the lads totally destroy the opposition, saying that, at times I thought they had sent their Rugby Team by mistake. Now the world cup really starts for the lads. I hope and pray I am wrong but our defence looked really vulnerable of at least six occasions, in particular all along our left flank,De Bruyne, Lakaku and in particular Hazard are a whole different ball game, on paper it should be a classic.
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Post by: malabu on June 24, 2018, 17:41:51 pm
I'm not interested in the rest of them. Just want England to improve to have a chance of going further. Not sure they have it in them...
...but I hope so

WELL?
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 24, 2018, 18:07:46 pm
More or less of the same opinion as tamkid. Good performance against a very poor side. But concerns over defending. The last game against Belgium will not be an indicator if qualification is not riding on it. I expect them to hit problems when they come up against world class strikers. And I'm still wondering what Stirling's about.
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Post by: MalT on June 27, 2018, 13:49:53 pm
Good luck to England, but think they will fall short, quite fancy Croatia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
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Post by: Tamkid on June 27, 2018, 14:25:36 pm
Croatia are one team I would not like to play against, they don't hold back, absolutely committed. The balance of our back three are the key to our chances, playing Walker out of his normal position could be our weakness, and Stones, though a brilliant back, he's a bit inconsistent, lets hope I am completely and utterly wrong - COME ON ENGLAND lets wop the Walloons, ever onward.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 27, 2018, 17:07:43 pm
Krauts out... IT'S AN OMEN  ;)
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Post by: Tamkid on June 27, 2018, 20:49:24 pm
Yeah its telling me I'm a mug gambler, knocked me out of half of my bets
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Post by: malabu on June 28, 2018, 13:17:14 pm
Good luck tonight England carry on making us proud, let’s see you go all the way.  :)
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 28, 2018, 20:13:30 pm
Krauts out... IT'S AN OMEN  ;)

Errr perhaps not.
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Post by: dagwood on June 28, 2018, 20:53:24 pm
Bad day at the office, they tried hard.  Better luck against Colombia. They could do with a bit of target practice I think
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Post by: malabu on June 29, 2018, 05:44:21 am
Krauts out... IT'S AN OMEN  ;)

Errr perhaps not.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 29, 2018, 05:56:18 am
Proud of getting beaten by a second rate Belgian side?. No i can't say I am.

Fail to see why anyone else would be either.

Let's see how it goes with Columbia, but I'm not getting too excited. Seen all the pre tournament hype before. Many times.
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Post by: malabu on June 29, 2018, 08:33:07 am
You don’t seem to have a lot to say nice about your country, so we came second but we can still be proud, we don’t have to win to do that surly
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Post by: erik_tonny on June 29, 2018, 08:35:51 am
Proud of getting beaten by a second rate Belgian side?. No i can't say I am.
All them english tattoos con't ever win over Manneke Pis.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 29, 2018, 11:13:11 am
You don’t seem to have a lot to say nice about your country, so we came second but we can still be proud, we don’t have to win to do that surly

I am very proud of my country and nobody sticks up for them any more than I do. But I like to think I am not blinded by patriotism. They are not a great team and that's that. Pride will not change it.  As I say I Don't fancy them going much further but will be the first to give credit where it's due if they prove me wrong. Last night was rubbish considering at least 6 of them were fighting for places in the first team.
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Post by: Tamkid on June 29, 2018, 17:29:50 pm
The manager is on a £1.5 million bonus to win the world cup, the players are averaging £250,000 each, just reminding everyone it is not really about football that is secondary as are the mug fans from both countries who paid a fortune to watch that micky mouse game. Money, money and more money are first and foremost the fans are always secondary. Every match in the world cup should be battled for with your best team (wishful thinking) or at least with a maximum of 4 changes from the previous winning team, last night was just pure garbage.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 29, 2018, 19:43:14 pm
Dead right. money has taken over the game to the point where it no longer seems to be the working mans choice of spending a Saturday afternoon.Roy keane got it right when he said the prawn sandwich brigade have taken over and ruined the atmosphere at premiership games.

And money is one of the reasons I think our National game has suffered for the last 20 odd years. Quick fix over paid imports from Africa, S America and elsewhere are preferred to home grown, and to me it's a direct consequence that the England team is suffering. Its a fact that the percentage of English players in the premiership is low..too low to sustain or promote decent International players. Not sure what the answer is and others may feel this is not the problem. There is something wrong somewhere though.
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Post by: Tamkid on June 29, 2018, 20:56:00 pm
GREED and a total disregard for the fans, is what's wrong. If I am honest, I cant really get my head around what was wrong with the Belgium vs England game, it just didn't sit right, what was the point? why not just toss a coin and return the fans money and save us having to watch a game of football that nobody was really bothered about winning, it is supposed to be "GREATEST SPORTING EVENT IN THE WORLD", what a joke, there is nothing sporting in putting your worst teams out.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 29, 2018, 21:33:26 pm


All last nights game showed us is that Belgium's reserve team is a lot better than ours.
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Post by: spitfire58 on June 29, 2018, 21:55:41 pm
I know nothing about football, has never interested me but as an observation, is it not a case of putting out what you had to put out to play the game through & holding your best back for the next (more important game) ???
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 29, 2018, 22:26:28 pm
Unfortunately it is.

Unless you lose that next important game. Then you ask yourself if we had played our best side against Belgium could it have kept the team on a roll and the winning streak ticking over? 


We will find out on Tuesday.
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Post by: Tamkid on June 30, 2018, 20:05:12 pm
To me it makes more sense to play your best team or nearly best team at all times, to keep motivation, moral, well oiled and most importantly sharpness. I feel Southgate has made a huge mistake, the team that comes out on Tuesday night will have been out of action for over a week, its just to long, nothing about the decision feels right.
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Post by: ashworth on July 01, 2018, 06:34:53 am
Dead right. money has taken over the game to the point where it no longer seems to be the working mans choice of spending a Saturday afternoon.Roy keane got it right when he said the prawn sandwich brigade have taken over and ruined the atmosphere at premiership games.

And money is one of the reasons I think our National game has suffered for the last 20 odd years. Quick fix over paid imports from Africa, S America and elsewhere are preferred to home grown, and to me it's a direct consequence that the England team is suffering. Its a fact that the percentage of English players in the premiership is low..too low to sustain or promote decent International players. Not sure what the answer is and others may feel this is not the problem. There is something wrong somewhere though.
Let me explain it to you. The UK Acadamy system gives any UK kid good at football the opportunity to become a Professional Footballer. These academies in the Premiership and Championship are state of the art. They develop our UK kids and give them every opportunity to progress into becoming a full time professional, but you have to work hard and be dedicated, forget the booze and give it 100%. In my experience having been involved in Acadamys many UK kids just don't have the dedication that many of the overseas players have.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 01, 2018, 09:14:11 am
No good showing dedication, coming through the Premiership academy and then being loaned out to lesser teams while the club's spend big bucks on the finished article from abroad. Let me explain to you that there is too much money at the top level to bother nurturing young home growns through the system. The premiership demands it..win at all costs. They reach a certain level and then the risks appear to be too great to give them game time. You get the odd ones coming through but nowhere near enough to reach International standard.
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Post by: ashworth on July 01, 2018, 09:26:48 am
No good showing dedication, coming through the Premiership academy and then being loaned out to lesser teams while the club's spend big bucks on the finished article from abroad. Let me explain to you that there is too much money at the top level to bother nurturing young home growns through the system. The premiership demands it..win at all costs. They reach a certain level and then the risks appear to be too great to give them game time. You get the odd ones coming through but nowhere near enough to reach International standard.
Total nonsense. If you are good enough you will get there. The problem is we do not produce enough hungry dedicated kids anymore. Look at Scotland Where are the Laws, Dalglish, Souness etc etc.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 01, 2018, 09:44:58 am
Too easy just to categorise our kids as lazy and disinterested. But then you are good at putting anything British down along with a few others on here.
The Scots don't produce good players any more because they all play in a second rate league. The ones who used to play at the top level in England are now replaced by S Americans and Africans. Just like the English.
The real nonsense is the fact that premiership clubs have no restraint on the amount of foreign players they can put out for a game as they do in other European countries.

And just to add.... the home grown quota of 8 players in a premiership squad is a joke. Cesc fabreras was regarded as home grown after coming through Arsenals Academy. As we all know he's Spanish and he plays for Spain. Home grown doesn't mean English it means you have to be affiliated to the FA for no less than 3 years.

Perhaps someone can explain then why most top Premiership teams struggle to put out a single Englishman, or produce real English players from their Academies. Don't tell me that it's because of our kids attitude because the lower clubs seem to produce them. In fact most English players in the top league ,few as there are, were brought in from lower division clubs.
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Post by: dagwood on July 01, 2018, 10:12:40 am
No good showing dedication, coming through the Premiership academy and then being loaned out to lesser teams while the club's spend big bucks on the finished article from abroad. Let me explain to you that there is too much money at the top level to bother nurturing young home growns through the system. The premiership demands it..win at all costs. They reach a certain level and then the risks appear to be too great to give them game time. You get the odd ones coming through but nowhere near enough to reach International standard.
Total nonsense. If you are good enough you will get there. The problem is we do not produce enough hungry dedicated kids anymore. Look at Scotland Where are the Laws, Dalglish, Souness etc etc.


And don’t forget the Irish ☘️
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Post by: vivafuerte on July 01, 2018, 11:44:06 am
no restraint on the amount of foreign players they can put out for a game as they do in other European countries.

this is not just in football, take africa for example, in some west african countries you cannot run for a local politicians job unless you where born there, yet anyone can come to UK and become a politician as long as they get voted in, same with lots of jobs, you cannot set up a company in most west african countries unless you employ over 91% locals, yet I know of hundred of chinese tech companies with UK offices and they employ 100% chinese staff, yet if you wnt to set up in china you HAVE to give the chinese government a percentage share of your company.

we are basically screwing ourselves over and then letting others screw us over again.
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Post by: Tamkid on July 01, 2018, 11:57:07 am
The academy is not quite working Ashworth - see below. I can only think of one British player who plays in another top flight European League and that's BALE, if we did have any others that's were they would finish up, money, money, money, always talks, that's modern sport. After this world cup I think we could have a few more foreign players in the Premiership, always money Ashworth, always Money.

The club licencing benchmarking report shows that 69.2 per cent of Premier League players are foreigners - significantly higher than the next competition, the Cypriot first division (57.1 per cent).
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 01, 2018, 12:20:14 pm
Dead right viva ...the lack of looking after British interests extends far beyond football. Foreign purchasers buying everything from old established businesses to any property in a decent location. No wonder our Utilities are run without a care for the British consumer and prices rocket. Why would owners who have no interest in the UK other than profits worry if the public gets value for money or a good service. IT all stinks and as tamkid says its down to money money money.

And so to football. What do foreign owners of premiership clubs care what effect the lack of English players has on our National game. In fact the pressure to succeed is so great even the few English managers put club before country. English football has been in decline for decades now and it is not getting any better, why?...because tv rights income since the birth of the premiership means they don't have to try hard enough to produce our own. Just fork out millions for tried and trusted foreigners.
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Post by: Tamkid on July 01, 2018, 15:56:48 pm
Your both absolutely spot on, try exporting electronic components to the USA, or getting into their vast military market, its just about impossible. I have been involved with the New Homes Lease scandal, I traced back some of the financial institutions that have purchased the Freehold/Leases from the likes of Barratts/Persimmons etc all American, they now own a vast amount of ENGLISH land and property, the home owners are merely tenants, and the list go's on and on.

Ivemovedon your so right about the state of English football ownership and management, they either use club ownership to launder criminal money or merely for advertising and corporate events.  Then there's the changing of the Strip every few months, gullible parents paying for £50 plus for a top, not to mention the rest of the merchandise. I love football, but it has become a multi millionaires playground for elite sportsmen funded by mug supporters like me. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame the footballers, I wish someone would offer me £330,000 a WEEK, that's the extreme, but £200,000 plus a week is very common. We should start a "Stop the Greed" campaign until they give something back to the supporters. The cheapest OFFICIAL ticket for the world cup final £336???,probably the average months wage in Russia.
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Post by: ashworth on July 01, 2018, 16:16:03 pm
Dead right viva ...the lack of looking after British interests extends far beyond football. Foreign purchasers buying everything from old established businesses to any property in a decent location. No wonder our Utilities are run without a care for the British consumer and prices rocket. Why would owners who have no interest in the UK other than profits worry if the public gets value for money or a good service. IT all stinks and as tamkid says its down to money money money.

And so to football. What do foreign owners of premiership clubs care what effect the lack of English players has on our National game. In fact the pressure to succeed is so great even the few English managers put club before country. English football has been in decline for decades now and it is not getting any better, why?...because tv rights income since the birth of the premiership means they don't have to try hard enough to produce our own. Just fork out millions for tried and trusted foreigners.
Utter nonsense. Look at Golf we are turning out some of the best players in the world. Kids who are dedicated and have an amazing will to win. We have only had 1 decent Tennis player in the last 20 years.?
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 01, 2018, 17:07:12 pm
Can't see what your point is. It's not the lack of desire in our youngsters then. So it must be the system.
You sound a little muddled.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 01, 2018, 17:14:42 pm
And both your examples are individual sports not team. What possible connection for over usage of foreigners is there in either of them?
What is it you are trying to say other than what I say is nonsense?.
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Post by: dagwood on July 01, 2018, 17:23:54 pm
When I pointed this out some months ago and got the head bitten off me, I was told I was being Anti British.
 No problem you’ll have your country back in nine months time and you can sort it all out then.
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Post by: Tamkid on July 01, 2018, 18:44:57 pm
For the number of people who play golf in the UK we turn out next to nothing, and the ones who have made it normally come from WHITE middle to upper class families. You do not see many Patel's, Mohammed's or Leroy's on the membership of many UK Golf Clubs, if any. Football is open to all classes and creed, unfortunately most of it is from abroad in our Premiership.


We have produced three Tennis Player in the past twenty years of any real significance for exactly the same reason as above "CLASS SNOBBERY", as for why nobody watches Athletics anymore, I wont go there, its to deep.
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Post by: ashworth on July 01, 2018, 23:09:25 pm
For the number of people who play golf in the UK we turn out next to nothing, and the ones who have made it normally come from WHITE middle to upper class families. You do not see many Patel's, Mohammed's or Leroy's on the membership of many UK Golf Clubs, if any. Football is open to all classes and creed, unfortunately most of it is from abroad in our Premiership.


We have produced three Tennis Player in the past twenty years of any real significance for exactly the same reason as above "CLASS SNOBBERY", as for why nobody watches Athletics anymore, I wont go there, its to deep.
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What a plant plot. Any kid with talent black, blue, green or pink can become a champion. We have the system in place to produce champions but it takes dedication and 100% commitment that many kids dont have. 
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 02, 2018, 06:56:19 am
Wrong again ashworth.  Or should I say Mrs ashworth.  ;)

And as an afterthought...we are just having a discussion on why we think the England team have been under performing for the last 25 years. No need to name call and get all hot under the collar. Cool down.
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Post by: ashworth on July 02, 2018, 08:04:32 am
Too easy just to categorise our kids as lazy and disinterested. But then you are good at putting anything British down along with a few others on here.
The Scots don't produce good players any more because they all play in a second rate league. The ones who used to play at the top level in England are now replaced by S Americans and Africans. Just like the English.
The real nonsense is the fact that premiership clubs have no restraint on the amount of foreign players they can put out for a game as they do in other European countries.

And just to add.... the home grown quota of 8 players in a premiership squad is a joke. Cesc fabreras was regarded as home grown after coming through Arsenals Academy. As we all know he's Spanish and he plays for Spain. Home grown doesn't mean English it means you have to be affiliated to the FA for no less than 3 years.

Perhaps someone can explain then why most top Premiership teams struggle to put out a single Englishman, or produce real English players from their Academies. Don't tell me that it's because of our kids attitude because the lower clubs seem to produce them. In fact most English players in the top league ,few as there are, were brought in from lower division clubs.
Law played for Man Utd and Dalgliesh and Souness played for Liverpool so not sure about your Scotish comment? If You are good enough you will play for a premiership club it is a simple as that. Every English kid in the Academy system are given an unbelievable opportunity to progress to the top level but it is hard work and total commitment. So don't blame the overseas players they have always been around.
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Post by: Tamkid on July 02, 2018, 08:14:51 am
Ashworth I will help you out just this once because I realise you have limited experience in the real world. There has been only two BLACK male tennis players in the history of the sport, the UK has one seeded BLACK teenage tennis player who gets racially abused online on a daily basis, the UK has no BLACK GOLFERS of any note, we have no BLACK cyclists of any note, we have no BLACK swimmers of any note, we have no BLACK rowers of any note, are you starting to get my drift, the list go's on and on. Have a read of ANY UK BLACK sports persons biography and what they have went through, I hope that helps you understand a little on what real life is, it seems to have passed your by.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 02, 2018, 09:11:09 am
Too easy just to categorise our kids as lazy and disinterested. But then you are good at putting anything British down along with a few others on here.
The Scots don't produce good players any more because they all play in a second rate league. The ones who used to play at the top level in England are now replaced by S Americans and Africans. Just like the English.
The real nonsense is the fact that premiership clubs have no restraint on the amount of foreign players they can put out for a game as they do in other European countries.

And just to add.... the home grown quota of 8 players in a premiership squad is a joke. Cesc fabreras was regarded as home grown after coming through Arsenals Academy. As we all know he's Spanish and he plays for Spain. Home grown doesn't mean English it means you have to be affiliated to the FA for no less than 3 years.

Perhaps someone can explain then why most top Premiership teams struggle to put out a single Englishman, or produce real English players from their Academies. Don't tell me that it's because of our kids attitude because the lower clubs seem to produce them. In fact most English players in the top league ,few as there are, were brought in from lower division clubs.
Law played for Man Utd and Dalgliesh and Souness played for Liverpool so not sure about your Scotish comment? If You are good enough you will play for a premiership club it is a simple as that. Every English kid in the Academy system are given an unbelievable opportunity to progress to the top level but it is hard work and total commitment. So don't blame the overseas players they have always been around.

No they haven't always been around. And what is worthy of note is that when they were not around ( especially in such great numbers ) England's International team had a much larger pool of players who could compete at the level required for major competitions. Hope I'm not looking through rose tinted specs at yesteryear but it's my opinion that there are possibly only two present England players who would even get near to being part of an England squad of 25 years ago.
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Post by: erik_tonny on July 02, 2018, 12:05:16 pm
Tamkid, do you know if there any any BLACK members on this forum?
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Post by: dagwood on July 02, 2018, 12:33:22 pm
Tamkid, do you know if there any any BLACK members on this forum?



Vivas has that in common Harrys new Wife I believe.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 02, 2018, 13:37:03 pm
Tamkid, do you know if there any any BLACK members on this forum?

Why?
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Post by: erik_tonny on July 02, 2018, 15:06:06 pm
Don't ask stupid questions Ivemovedon. Read Tamkids post and think about it.
But please please please don't try to think too deep and complicated. Just get a taste of the question.
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Post by: ashworth on July 02, 2018, 15:10:05 pm
Ashworth I will help you out just this once because I realise you have limited experience in the real world. There has been only two BLACK male tennis players in the history of the sport, the UK has one seeded BLACK teenage tennis player who gets racially abused online on a daily basis, the UK has no BLACK GOLFERS of any note, we have no BLACK cyclists of any note, we have no BLACK swimmers of any note, we have no BLACK rowers of any note, are you starting to get my drift, the list go's on and on. Have a read of ANY UK BLACK sports persons biography and what they have went through, I hope that helps you understand a little on what real life is, it seems to have passed your by.
Daley Thomson was not bad so was John Barnes, Ian Wright, Louis Hamelton and the list goes on. If you are good enough you get there and one from Over the Pond Tiger Woods he could play a bit. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Post by: Tamkid on July 02, 2018, 15:10:57 pm
I think there are six blacks, two Asians, four Inuit's, two jocks, a Welshman, four women and a partridge in a pear tree, how the hell should I know, and what difference does it make how many blacks, yellows pinks or reds are on the forum. That's one of the good things about a forum, we are all equal bytes, maybe not equal brains wise, but byte wise, yes.

Come on ENGLAND,
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Post by: Tamkid on July 02, 2018, 15:12:05 pm
Sorry Ashworth your absolutely right, my apologies for being so stupid, I forgot about Daly Thompson the athlete.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 02, 2018, 15:26:23 pm
Don't ask stupid questions Ivemovedon. Read Tamkids post and think about it.
But please please please don't try to think too deep and complicated. Just get a taste of the question.

That's a good way of getting out of answering. Whats black people on this forum got to do with black people in sport. The real stupid question was yours.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 02, 2018, 15:36:52 pm
LOl Daley Thompson strutted his stuff 30 years ago. Tiger Woods is American. Can't see where all this is going. Now sperik has joined the fray it's automatically taken a downward spiral.

Time to move on... ;)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: erik_tonny on July 02, 2018, 16:17:34 pm
same as what skin color has to do with sport. funny how some get ovrrsensitive when they see or hear the word black
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 02, 2018, 17:12:09 pm
John Barnes,

JB was born and raised in Jamaica.

he only played for England as a adopted player.

I think columbia have a decent chance tomorrow but if we can just get through that the next rounds look good for us.

funny how dagwood and sperik turn up and post AT THE SAME TIME EVERY TIME!

calleditmonthsago
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 02, 2018, 18:00:35 pm
Not an effin again
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 03, 2018, 21:55:18 pm
Well me busters not busted yet. Best team by far won. Good luck against Sweden.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 03, 2018, 22:18:45 pm
LOl Daley Thompson strutted his stuff 30 years ago. Tiger Woods is American. Can't see where all this is going. Now sperik has joined the fray it's automatically taken a downward spiral.

Time to move on... ;)

WELL
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 03, 2018, 22:23:49 pm
So proud of you boys quarter finals, I think you will still get slagged off by the few on here who pretend they love there country, but hey so what just a bunch of tossers
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 03, 2018, 22:53:36 pm
The boys did great, not a shot on target, but still came through against a bunch of thugs who had twelve players (that's their support Malabu). England's mental strength was superb, I'm really, really happy.

Concentrate on sending positive vibes to the team, rather than negative vibes to the Forum members Malabu, KARMA, its all good from here.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 03, 2018, 22:59:24 pm
Tamkid, do you know if there any any BLACK members on this forum?



Vivas has that in common Harrys new Wife I believe.

stupid dumb irish idiot hopes we dont meet one day

racism is not cool you dumb irish tool
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 03, 2018, 23:35:02 pm
Tamkid, do you know if there any any BLACK members on this forum?



Vivas has that in common Harrys new Wife I believe.



stupid dumb irish idiot hopes we dont meet one day

racism is not cool you dumb irish tool


What I think is she’s a beautiful intelligent young lady and a top class actor.
Maybe you don’t agree but again you revert to personal threats as its all you can do Von Viva. You must be very unhappy with yourself and have a massive inferiority complex.
Now bring your hate elsewhere
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 04, 2018, 06:34:24 am
So proud of you boys quarter finals, I think you will still get slagged off by the few on here who pretend they love there country, but hey so what just a bunch of tossers

You'd have been a bit quieter if the penalty situation went Columbia's way.

It's always easy to shoot your mouth off in hindsight.

You sound like you'd be proud of a turd with a George cross stuck in it.
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Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 07:38:47 am
So proud of you boys quarter finals, I think you will still get slagged off by the few on here who pretend they love there country, but hey so what just a bunch of tossers

You'd have been a bit quieter if the penalty situation went Columbia's way.

It's always easy to shoot your mouth off in hindsight.

You sound like you'd be proud of a turd with a George cross stuck in it.
if the cap fits, would still be proud if we lost as you keep reminding others on here i am a proud ENGLISHMAN not just when we win at any sport
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: erik_tonny on July 04, 2018, 09:00:33 am
Tamkid, do you know if there any any BLACK members on this forum?



Vivas has that in common Harrys new Wife I believe.

stupid dumb irish idiot hopes we dont meet one day

racism is not cool you dumb irish tool

What does this have to do with racism ?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 10:03:24 am
Nothing at all, the original post was in support of the England team in the World Cup, but as always got highjacked by the few
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 10:07:34 am
The boys did great, not a shot on target, but still came through against a bunch of thugs who had twelve players (that's their support Malabu). England's mental strength was superb, I'm really, really happy.

Concentrate on sending positive vibes to the team, rather than negative vibes to the Forum members Malabu, KARMA, its all good from here.

I was under the impression that being proud of your football team and countrymen was posative, and it’s not all good from forum members unless I am missing something
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 10:18:21 am
So proud of you boys quarter finals, I think you will still get slagged off by the few on here who pretend they love there country, but hey so what just a bunch of tossers

You'd have been a bit quieter if the penalty situation went Columbia's way.

It's always easy to shoot your mouth off in hindsight.

You sound like you'd be proud of a turd with a George cross stuck in it.

What a sad person you are, yes I would have felt down in the mouth if we lost but the pride would still be there, I don’t remember shooting my mouth off in hindsight as it has nothing to do with it, and with regards to the turd with the George cross on it that sounds a lot like you to be honest, why on earth can you not just let people be happy and proud without you slagging them off, it seems you don’t have a lot of anything nice about anyone or anything
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 04, 2018, 10:41:06 am
Get a grip you fool. Just because I'm not a knuckle dragging Neanderthal over hyped supporter that feeds off media bulls$!t doesn't mean I don't love my country. I like to be objective  in my patriotism and not just plain blind to the obvious. You are the type of so called England supporter who gets up my nose and why we are regarded as sportingly defunct as a nation. If you can't recognize your own deficiencies you ain't going nowhere.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 11:21:36 am
Get a grip you fool. Just because I'm not a knuckle dragging Neanderthal over hyped supporter that feeds off media bulls$!t doesn't mean I don't love my country. I like to be objective  in my patriotism and not just plain blind to the obvious. You are the type of so called England supporter who gets up my nose and why we are regarded as sportingly defunct as a nation. If you can't recognize your own deficiencies you ain't going nowhere.
O dear touched a sore point have i, your proving my point if all else fails he calls everyone who does not agree with him names, i am starting to think that Dagwood is correct with his views of you, and with regards to media silly nonsense looking back over your posts of past you more than anyone has quoted the press to your own ends on many occasion, 
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: ashworth on July 04, 2018, 12:03:33 pm
They were average. . In fact apart from the two goals we were pretty poor. No good saying they are looking like world beaters when they most definitely are not.

I'll be the first to cheer them on when or if they deserve it. On that showing they didn't and will struggle to beat Belgium.

It get's to me when people think mediocrity of £100,000 + a week players is acceptable.
Here are the comments of a lad who has never played Football.
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Post by: Tamkid on July 04, 2018, 12:16:47 pm
I cant imagine what it must have been like for the lads playing in that Cauldron of fan barracking and having no protection from the ref, but each and every one of our lad came through brilliantly, the mental strength going into the next game cant be over stressed.

Apart from Walkers mistake in given the ball away, our defence was good, but not world class, one surprise weakness for me was winning the ball in the air, we need to improve on that before the Swedish game,their player Tolvonen is 6ft 4inch and handy in the air. I reckon we have a hell of a chance of winning Sweden, they are solid in defence but nothing great up front, I'm backing our lads to win 2-0, the first goal coming in the first 15 minutes.
 
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Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 13:11:09 pm
I cant imagine what it must have been like for the lads playing in that Cauldron of fan barracking and having no protection from the ref, but each and every one of our lad came through brilliantly, the mental strength going into the next game cant be over stressed.

Apart from Walkers mistake in given the ball away, our defence was good, but not world class, one surprise weakness for me was winning the ball in the air, we need to improve on that before the Swedish game,their player Tolvonen is 6ft 4inch and handy in the air. I reckon we have a hell of a chance of winning Sweden, they are solid in defence but nothing great up front, I'm backing our lads to win 2-0, the first goal coming in the first 15 minutes.
At last something constructive, i agree 100%, and as we keep saying we know we are not the best in the world, (YET) but we have pride in competing and at least getting this far, there are supposedly better teams going out, but hey we are STILL IN IT TO WIN IT :) :), COME ON ENGLAND, 
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 13:13:11 pm
They were average. . In fact apart from the two goals we were pretty poor. No good saying they are looking like world beaters when they most definitely are not.

I'll be the first to cheer them on when or if they deserve it. On that showing they didn't and will struggle to beat Belgium.

It get's to me when people think mediocrity of £100,000 + a week players is acceptable.
Here are the comments of a lad who has never played Football.
I don't think he has done a lot of anything, most certainly nothing good to say about the uk,
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 04, 2018, 17:58:13 pm
Played competitive football from aged 8 or 9 until I was 41 and the ankles gave up on me. Doesn't make me an expert by any means but I probably know as much if not more than a few of the armchair duds on here who seem to think they know so much.  As I said before, criticism does not mean lack of patriotism, it means I am not as easily pleased with mediocre performances as others and I'm not afraid to say it...despite malabu's pumped up, over zealous rantings. You enjoy it Malabu and shout them on as much as you like but you won't bully me from seeing the weaknesses in the team and saying so.

It's going to be mighty interesting to see how we get on against Sweden. And I hope things go favourably...but if they don't  I will be the first to point out why I think they didn't.
Never did like fake overblown patriotic posturing ranked by how many pints you can swill over 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 18:43:10 pm
Unlike you who professes to know everything about everything, I like millions only know how we feel about our national team, don’t forget the 32 teams in the World Cup are supposed to be the best in the world even though you keep saying how poor they are, they are still the best and some of the best have gone, no one on this forum has said we are the best only wished our team well, so why don’t you just allow us our hour of fame and stardom even if we go no further we have proved so many of you wrong.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 04, 2018, 18:58:42 pm
What ARE you talking about?Just because I don't rate their performances as highly as you do means I can't actually say so because it might spoil your blinkered perception of the game and how far they might go?. Who do you think you are and who are you speaking for?.
Got to be honest about this I find it hard to take having my patriotism questioned by someone who decided for one reason or another Britain was not for them and chose a life elsewhere.I'm sitting watching the games in England not a Corralejo bar. Maybe you should be supporting someone a bit closer to where you enjoy living.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 19:45:47 pm
Have you seen the pnews from around the world, millions of people on a high and willing England on, you don’t have to live in a place to have the will and passion for them to do well, and if it makes them all happy for a while so what, you don’t have a lot to look forward to in the Uk at the moment, so let’s dream on, and by the way I don’t watch football in  Corralejo bar. Where did you watch the game when over here or did you go back to watch
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Post by: malabu on July 04, 2018, 20:18:55 pm
As a point of interest are you saying all the millions of Irish, Scotch etc who live around the world are unpatriotic because they support from afar and not from there home country, I question your support of our national team not your opinions on the country, which has gone down the pan and one of the reasone I got out, and unlike many there now I worked my whole working life in the uk till retirement and I take nothing from the coffers I have not paid for, I also made sure taxes etc for people working for me where paid in full,  I wonder how many livening there can say that let alone people who chose to get out
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 04, 2018, 20:23:41 pm
I watched the games wherever I could if that makes any difference to you, but I made sure I wasn't up on a soapbox spouting my patriotism to anyone who'd listen . And I don't have to see the news from around the world to see people on a high and willing England on..it's happening in my house. Much as you might not think so.

Who says we don't have a lot to look forward to in the UK at the moment. Quarter finals of the world cup, giving the EU the elbow, beating the Aussie's at cricket and a heatwave making FV look cold. What's wrong with that lot.

Oh and I had a nice accumulator up at Royal Ascot the other week.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 04, 2018, 20:28:25 pm
i recon i support them more than both of you combined!

so ner

(thats what you sound like guys)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 04, 2018, 20:41:54 pm
Nowt about the support. I don't like being told I can't air my opinions whether positive or negative regarding England's performances. Fail to see that anyone on here should think they can stifle any form of opinion other than their own.

I'm not having it. End of.

And viva have you heard how you and daggie sound sometimes)  ;)
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Post by: vivafuerte on July 04, 2018, 21:26:03 pm
And viva have you heard how you and daggie sound sometimes)  ;)

the levels of stupidity that stupid irish mong comes out with makes me stoop to special levels of retard in a genuine effort to get to his level.

and I genuinely would rip the dirty little racists head of if we meet.
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Post by: dagwood on July 04, 2018, 21:50:05 pm
Default setting again I see.
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Post by: erik_tonny on July 04, 2018, 22:06:34 pm
And viva have you heard how you and daggie sound sometimes)  ;)

the levels of stupidity that stupid irish mong comes out with makes me stoop to special levels of retard in a genuine effort to get to his level.

and I genuinely would rip the dirty little racists head of if we meet.

Vivafuerte, get a life. No, rather lose a life. Bye
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 04, 2018, 23:43:04 pm
Vivafuerte, get a life. No, rather lose a life. Bye

all you need to worry about is that we dont ever meet, daggers, and ill give you a heads up, facebook is screwing you over.

you skinny little runt.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 05, 2018, 07:19:40 am
Now that’s what I call passion,  ;)
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 05, 2018, 10:42:18 am
waiting for Dele Alli and Raheem Sterling to show a bit of that. :-*
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 05, 2018, 11:03:16 am
Bit of info on the production of present England players from the elite Academy's which are supposed to be supplying our National side.

Jordan Henderson loaned out to Coventry from Sunderland
Jesse Lingard loaned out to Leicester, Birmingham, Brighton and Derby.
Harry Kane loaned out to L Orient, Millwall, Norwich and Leicester
Danny Rose loaned out to Waford, Peterborough and Bristol City ex Leeds trainee
Kieran Trippier shipped out to Barnsley twice then Burnley from Man City.
Harry Maguire started at Sheffield Utd on loan to Wigan then Hull to Leicester
Jamie Vardy Non league Stockbridge, Halifax and Fleetwood.
John Stones youth academy at Barnsley
Kyle Walker Sheffield Utd loan spells at QPR and Northampton
Dele Alli MK Dons for 4 seasons
Ashley Young broke through at Watford
Jordan Pickford loaned out by Sunderland to Alfreton, Darlington, Burton and Bradford.

Quite an eye opener how few players are produced (or have the confidence to give them playing time) by Academy's and managers of the supposed elite clubs.
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Post by: malabu on July 05, 2018, 11:59:08 am
Don't know any world class players that start at the top, experience, skill, and respect have to be learned and earned not expect to come through with it automatic just because you come through an Elite academy,
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 05, 2018, 12:53:39 pm
Rashford started with Man Utd.
And of course you won't see many coming through from the top half a dozen clubs if they continue to buy and play whole teams full to the brim with players from abroad.  Common sense ain't it?...maybe not.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 05, 2018, 14:58:07 pm
So you at least agree we have one world class player
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 05, 2018, 15:27:19 pm
I think we've got two. That never used to be enough to win you a world cup, but it just might do this time. The general standard is the worse I've seen for many years.  Germany were terrible, Spain nowhere near as good as previously and Argentina a disaster. Even Brazil look beatable.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: duncolm on July 05, 2018, 19:55:53 pm
Looking forward to the Tour de France starting on Saturday. At least there will be less cheats than in the World Cup.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 05, 2018, 21:23:45 pm
Looking forward to the Tour de France starting on Saturday. At least there will be less cheats than in the World Cup.

tour de france reminds me of when I lived in holland, loads of people off their heads on drugs riding bicycles ;)

Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 05, 2018, 21:41:39 pm
Cycling, cleanest sport in the world after boxing and tennis
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: erik_tonny on July 06, 2018, 09:12:11 am
Looking forward to the Tour de France starting on Saturday. At least there will be less cheats than in the World Cup.

tour de france reminds me of when I lived in holland, loads of people off their heads on drugs riding bicycles ;)

Where and when did you live in Holland?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 06, 2018, 13:34:05 pm

Where and when did you live in Holland?

why and what business is that of yours ?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: erik_tonny on July 06, 2018, 16:21:33 pm

Where and when did you live in Holland?

why and what business is that of yours ?

You really are an unfriendly bitch. Forget I even asked and just roll over and die.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 06, 2018, 17:50:36 pm
Rashford started with Man Utd.
And of course you won't see many coming through from the top half a dozen clubs if they continue to buy and play whole teams full to the brim with players from abroad.  Common sense ain't it?...maybe not.

Word on the street is that after having signed a new deal with Chelsea there is talk Ruben Loftus Cheek will be farmed out to Crystal Palace again (much to their delight)

Chelsea don't trust him enough to actually play him but are fearful of selling on his talent. Something wrong with the system somewhere.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 06, 2018, 18:52:14 pm
You really are an unfriendly bitch. Forget I even asked and just roll over and die.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHA!
(https://i.imgur.com/zC0k1Qp.gif)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 07, 2018, 08:35:46 am
Well would you believe it, that second rate team knocked the favourites out, funny old world Cup this, all the best teams going and all the number two left,
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 07, 2018, 08:53:04 am
Unlike against England it wasn't their second team. It was their first team.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 07, 2018, 09:32:05 am
Best of luck England later on today. I hope they get on well
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 07, 2018, 09:48:30 am
HA HA no winning is there, it was England's second team as well 8 changes for the game,  :P :P
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 07, 2018, 10:18:23 am
LOL what point are you trying to make. Did I say England put out their first team?

I was merely correcting you when you stated a second rate team knocked out the favourites. You are tying yourself in knots of confusion trying to get the upper hand.

Anyway...who cares. Big match today. While you are puffing your chest out with pride regardless, I will be sitting by the tv and hoping...but most certainly not expecting.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 07, 2018, 10:47:25 am
Who menstioned you I was referring to the press today but if the cap fits, and why do you do your best to be offensive, we won’t be sitting alone watching but with friends and family willing them on regardless, I bet you would love to see them lose just to prove a point
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 07, 2018, 11:31:17 am

Firstly I never said you would be watching the game alone, i never even implied it.

Secondly you are nowhere near important enough for me to want to see England lose.

Thirdly what have I said that you find so offensive. Other than that I don't support them as unquestioningly as you do?.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 07, 2018, 12:16:05 pm
I really am looking forward to your comments if we go further,  and what I find offensive is you cannot reply to anything without calling people names, I think it is your way of not really answering any questions, but simply diversifying
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 07, 2018, 12:47:40 pm
Look back and you will see the term bunch of tossers in one of your earlier posts. You appear to have forgotten that you yourself set the tone for what has followed. But then most people who are quick to condemn others never see their own deficiencies, that seems to be how it is. And you can't put that down to the press. :D

Whatever the case enjoy the game wherever you watch it and you can be sure whatever the result I will treat you to my humble observations.

to refresh your memory your abuse started on reply 75 of this thread... but I'm not easily offended and didn't think it was worth mentioning at the time   ;) ) )
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 07, 2018, 16:47:25 pm
It looks like me buster is still not busted. A bit of life in the auld dog yet. ⚽️⚽️⚽️
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 07, 2018, 17:32:25 pm
Criticism when its due and praise when its due.

England were the better team all round and McGuire was my man of the match. Semi next and who knows.

Just to keep it level headed I am still wondering what Stirling is all about.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 07, 2018, 17:51:50 pm
yeah sterling was doing my head in, if he wasnt being rag dolled like a child by their defence he was too scared to try and shoot.

we need russia next, just for the hype, unsure if we will beat them but the story would be great.

and if we do its against france who have been doing well, tough one for us.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: erik_tonny on July 07, 2018, 20:56:46 pm
Did you see Russia Croatia? A great game. And a great game with not one black on the field !
Hay bitch, you reading this? no blacks, zero blacks, nada negros. Hows that for your racist mindset ?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 07, 2018, 21:04:40 pm
Look back and you will see the term bunch of tossers in one of your earlier posts. You appear to have forgotten that you yourself set the tone for what has followed. But then most people who are quick to condemn others never see their own deficiencies, that seems to be how it is. And you can't put that down to the press. :D

Whatever the case enjoy the game wherever you watch it and you can be sure whatever the result I will treat you to my humble observations.

to refresh your memory your abuse started on reply 75 of this thread... but I'm not easily offended and didn't think it was worth mentioning at the time   ;) ) )

Again if the cap fits so the saying goes, it was referring to the comments of the sky crew who wrote us off like you did
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 07, 2018, 21:08:13 pm
Hey guys by the way we won and managed the semi final, so put it to one side and shout it’s coming home?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 07, 2018, 21:15:45 pm
you could be right...even I'm starting to believe.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 07, 2018, 21:29:58 pm
no blacks, zero blacks, nada negros.
are you really this racist or is it a game ?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 07, 2018, 22:07:28 pm
Good luck against Croatia. Me €20 buster is starting to sweat a bit now. All the best.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Johnrgby2 on July 08, 2018, 08:13:12 am
Good luck against Croatia. Me €20 buster is starting to sweat a bit now. All the best.

If this keeps going Daggie, you might have to become an honorary Englishman :o :o
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 08, 2018, 08:23:43 am
Good luck against Croatia. Me €20 buster is starting to sweat a bit now. All the best.

If this keeps going Daggie, you might have to become an honorary Englishman :o :o

Ivemovedon will put a stop to that I’d say. Anyway me €20 Euro is getting a good run. Good luck.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 08, 2018, 09:59:55 am
Did you see Russia Croatia? A great game. And a great game with not one black on the field !
Hay bitch, you reading this? no blacks, zero blacks, nada negros. Hows that for your racist mindset ?

And your point is?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 08, 2018, 10:27:06 am
Did you see Russia Croatia? A great game. And a great game with not one black on the field !
Hay bitch, you reading this? no blacks, zero blacks, nada negros. Hows that for your racist mindset ?

And your point is?

he's just trying to prove that his erik account is a little bit more stupid than his dagwood account.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: paully on July 08, 2018, 10:30:40 am
The point is he`s racist and to prove his worth he confirmed it by using the `Nada N` words. Indicative of a particular poor outlook..

  Meanwhile well done and good luck to the team, well served by a manager who for the first time since Bobby Robson is possessed of charm, honesty and humility. These are qualities he brings to the integrity of the team and its spirit is the result. Just honest young lads, some possessed of more talent than others, but fearless of others reputations  and a blinding desire to bring success to England, its team, mentors and fans...Simply to them...we thank you..
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 08, 2018, 10:35:23 am
Done slightly better than all the foreign managers they trawled out over the years .Home grown is always best.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 08, 2018, 11:21:49 am
Did you see Russia Croatia? A great game. And a great game with not one black on the field !
Hay bitch, you reading this? no blacks, zero blacks, nada negros. Hows that for your racist mindset ?

And your point is?

he's just trying to prove that his erik account is a little bit more stupid than his dagwood account.

Nothing to do with me lads. I don’t even know who this person is.
Anyway none of those N words make up any part of my vocabulary.
I sometimes feel sorry for Viva and his unique situation because deep down he knows that he will always be classed (not by me and I believe the vast majority of forum members) by the upper class British establishment types as a half breed. But then you can’t believe anything he writes about himself as he’s a proven liar.
That is 
If he’s not someone’s other half.🌚
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 08, 2018, 12:46:50 pm
The point is he`s racist and to prove his worth he confirmed it by using the `Nada N` words. Indicative of a particular poor outlook..

  Meanwhile well done and good luck to the team, well served by a manager who for the first time since Bobby Robson is possessed of charm, honesty and humility. These are qualities he brings to the integrity of the team and its spirit is the result. Just honest young lads, some possessed of more talent than others, but fearless of others reputations  and a blinding desire to bring success to England, its team, mentors and fans...Simply to them...we thank you..
Arrr well said got tears in me eyes
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 11, 2018, 15:27:18 pm
(https://thumbsnap.com/s/o60e5z7B.png)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 11, 2018, 15:46:15 pm
Good luck tonight lads this is a big one..
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 11, 2018, 16:21:58 pm
Win or lose the lads have done us proud, great ambassadors for England, each and every one of them. Its coming home, come on lads you can do it. I reckon England will get a penalty in the first 20 mins, convert it through King Kane, and then Sterling will break his duck, England to win 2 - 0. 
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 11, 2018, 21:40:42 pm
So me busters banjaxed. Hard luck lads. I genuinely hoped you’d do it.
I’ll probably pick up €100 for getting to the semi final.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 11, 2018, 22:35:34 pm
Combination of running out of steam, and lacking that extra bit of class. I'm not sure about Kane, he should have been subbed for the beginning of the second half, he had a very strange game, you can only assume he is injured.


Still proud of the young lads, they didnt blubber, went across to the fans and clapped them, they acted like men instead of spoilt brats, they have been a credit to the nation and the sport, and gave us
a lot of fun to boot, plus terrible hangovers. Until 2022 then. My missus fell asleep just after half time not sure what that means, me or the team are boring.


I lost a packet when Germany got knocked out, couldnt believe it.



Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 12, 2018, 07:58:22 am
Sorry I can't join the back slapping well done boys bit. They lost. And they lost to a team they should  have beaten.
I'm sure that's gonna throw the cat among the pigeons..but at the moment I don't really care. Bring it on.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: erik_tonny on July 12, 2018, 08:30:41 am
Brexit.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 12, 2018, 09:13:31 am
Brussels went out before we did
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 12, 2018, 09:15:26 am
They still beat us on the way.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 12, 2018, 09:23:52 am
That result was was pointless and a waste of time. A bit like the EU
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 10:02:37 am
That result was was pointless and a waste of time. A bit like the EU

Not a good looser Ivemovedon, it’s a repeat of when Ireland kicked Englands butt in the rugby.
Still the players did well and played their hearts out. They lost to a better team.
They have nothing to be ashamed of.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 10:33:13 am
I think Ivemovedon,Viva and of course Beachlife should issue a white paper on both Brexit and the World Cup.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 12, 2018, 11:01:36 am
Sorry I can't join the back slapping well done boys bit. They lost. And they lost to a team they should  have beaten.
I'm sure that's gonna throw the cat among the pigeons..but at the moment I don't really care. Bring it on.

BORROW ME A PHONE AND I WILL PHONE SOMEONE WHO GIVES A FECK WHAT YOU THINK.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 12, 2018, 11:23:53 am
I think you mean lend you daft old coot.

Don't see defeat as any form of victory unlike you.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 12, 2018, 11:29:56 am
I think you mean lend you daft old coot.

Don't see defeat as any form of victory unlike you.

Borrow is a regular verb meaning ‘get something from someone, intending to give it back after a short time’:

Could I borrow your pen for a minute, please?

Laura used to borrow money from me all the time.

 
Typical error
When you give something, you lend it; when you get or receive something, you borrow it:

Can I borrow your dictionary?

Not: Can I lend your dictionary?

and no one has said it was a victory what i said was i don't care what you think, also the defeat of the remainers was not a form of victory for you then,
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 12:50:22 pm
I think you mean lend you daft old coot.

Don't see defeat as any form of victory unlike you.




Back in the name calling mode I notice which is the default setting for the pro Brexit people.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: beachlife on July 12, 2018, 13:45:46 pm
I think Ivemovedon,Viva and of course Beachlife should issue a white paper on both Brexit and the World Cup.

Keep up dagwood in the UK only a government can issue a white paper, but typical of you not to let facts get in the way of what you consider a pithy remark.

Also why I was hoping England all the best in the World cup, I`ve told you before I`m not English. So why should I comment on Englands performance in it?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 15:08:28 pm
I think Ivemovedon,Viva and of course Beachlife should issue a white paper on both Brexit and the World Cup.

Keep up dagwood in the UK only a government can issue a white paper, but typical of you not to let facts get in the way of what you consider a pithy remark.

Also why I was hoping England all the best in the World cup, I`ve told you before I`m not English. So why should I comment on Englands performance in it?

I'm sure  you lot wouldn't allow a minor detail like the UK sorry Disunited Kingdom government or what remains of it to stop you issuing a white paper or maybe even a brown one.
I like you ( and this is where the similarity ends) am not from England and genuinely wished the Team all the best and I must say overall the fans appear to have behaved reasonably well given previous history. Maybe they remembered the lesson the Irish Police gave Combat 18 on 15 of February 1995     
Now I hope Croatia go on to beat France, remember Terry Henry.   
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 12, 2018, 15:48:06 pm
Sorry I can't join the back slapping well done boys bit. They lost. And they lost to a team they should  have beaten.
I'm sure that's gonna throw the cat among the pigeons..but at the moment I don't really care. Bring it on.

BORROW ME A PHONE AND I WILL PHONE SOMEONE WHO GIVES A FECK WHAT YOU THINK.

Lend me a phone not borrow me a phone. Get it right man.

Borrow and me together  is a no no .
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: erik_tonny on July 12, 2018, 16:05:08 pm
Short for lend me a borrowed phone.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 12, 2018, 16:27:41 pm
I've got a spare phone if anyone's interested
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 16:51:38 pm
I put a Nickel in the telephone and dialled Ivemovedons number
And got a burp brrr brrr brrr busy line.
Each time I tried I got a busy tone
Not ivemovedons number
Just a brrr brrr brrr brrr busy line.

Called his uncle in Jamaica (Windrush)
Left a message with the baker
Even checked the number in the telephone book
Got so awfully worried
To ivemovedons house I hurried
When I looked inside, the phone was off the hook
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: beachlife on July 12, 2018, 17:29:43 pm

[/quote]

I'm sure  you lot wouldn't allow a minor detail like the UK sorry Disunited Kingdom government or what remains of it to stop you issuing a white paper or maybe even a brown one.
I like you ( and this is where the similarity ends) am not from England and genuinely wished the Team all the best and I must say overall the fans appear to have behaved reasonably well given previous history. Maybe they remembered the lesson the Irish Police gave Combat 18 on 15 of February 1995     
Now I hope Croatia go on to beat France, remember Terry Henry.   
[/quote]

Terry Henry????? Think you mean Thierry Henry, but its ok I know you are not bothered about facts.

Anyway you know whats going on all over the place. Whats happening with the Irish Ryanair pilot strikes strikes today, as an Irish person I would have thought that would have been of more importance to you.

The Irish carrier is facing strike action in many of the countries it operates in. German pilots are expected to vote over a pay and working conditions dispute later this month. Belgian, Portuguese and Spanish cabin crews are to strike on 25 and 26 July. Italian flight crews will also take industrial action on 25 July.

I thought MOL was an advocate of the EU but seems he can cherry pick which things he likes and which things he doesn`t when it comes to issues closer to home.


Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 17:56:49 pm
Same name different language. Not as sexy in English eh.
Re Ryanair strike it’s not about pay and nobody claimed it is as the Ryanair captains are paid approx €20k more than the equivalent Aer Lingus pilots. It’s about seniority and other trumped up stuff as the conditions as good if not better than most airlines. It affected about 30 flights to the U.K. and most passengers were fixed up on other flights and no European flights were affected. Aer Lingus pilots are behind this strike it seems.   
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 12, 2018, 18:04:35 pm
I put a Nickel in the telephone and dialled Ivemovedons number
And got a burp brrr brrr brrr busy line.
Each time I tried I got a busy tone
Not ivemovedons number
Just a brrr brrr brrr brrr busy line.

Called his uncle in Jamaica (Windrush)
Left a message with the baker
Even checked the number in the telephone book
Got so awfully worried
To ivemovedons house I hurried
When I looked inside, the phone was off the hook


You sure you didn't ring Terry Henry by mistake. ;)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: beachlife on July 12, 2018, 18:42:03 pm
Same name different language. Not as sexy in English eh.
Re Ryanair strike it’s not about pay and nobody claimed it is as the Ryanair captains are paid approx €20k more than the equivalent Aer Lingus pilots. It’s about seniority and other trumped up stuff as the conditions as good if not better than most airlines. It affected about 30 flights to the U.K. and most passengers were fixed up on other flights and no European flights were affected. Aer Lingus pilots are behind this strike it seems.

Only you mentioned pay I never thought it was about pay. Its so easy to jump to conclusions when replies are so short and concise, but you like it like that.

Ryanair and union officials are in dispute over the issue of a seniority agreement for pilots.

Pilots are seeking a clearer system for dealing with issues such as base allocation, annual leave and matters related to length of service. In other words conditions of service which the EU should be protecting. They have long complained of poor working conditions and meagre employment rights as a result of Ryanair’s model of employing them via third-party agencies.

Any further disruption could start to crystallise an image of Ryanair as a risky bet that makes paying an extra 10% or so for another airline seem like a good insurance policy.

One concern for Ryanair must be that any cancellation comes with the memory of last winter’s travails still relatively fresh. Thousands of passengers had their flights cancelled due to a blunder in the airline’s staffing roster.

Their brand is built on being reliable chaps whose parents weren't married when they were born. What the strikes threaten to do is question the reliability. They’re more resilient than others because they’ve never promised anything more than no-frills but deliver on what they promise.That also leaves them less margin for error, so when you get problems it threatens to affect your brand.

Personally I`m looking at Easyjet and Jet2 for August now due to the possibility of action escalating. I imagine I will not be alone.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 12, 2018, 18:44:42 pm
There was a forum with some Master Baters
Plokers to the core, and people haters
They bitched and moaned always trying to bait
Turning the forum into something third rate

Britex was favourite, they had a byte ball
Trying to convince everyone, they knew it all,
The reality is, they haven’t a clue
Nobody does, we are all in the stew

Brightspark the resident troll, of the lowest order,
I believe he lives across the border,
With his many user names, he tries to wreak havoc
The reality is he is one sad faggot




Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 18:51:19 pm
Same name different language. Not as sexy in English eh.
Re Ryanair strike it’s not about pay and nobody claimed it is as the Ryanair captains are paid approx €20k more than the equivalent Aer Lingus pilots. It’s about seniority and other trumped up stuff as the conditions as good if not better than most airlines. It affected about 30 flights to the U.K. and most passengers were fixed up on other flights and no European flights were affected. Aer Lingus pilots are behind this strike it seems.

Only you mentioned pay I never thought it was about pay. Its so easy to jump to conclusions when replies are so short and concise, but you like it like that.

Ryanair and union officials are in dispute over the issue of a seniority agreement for pilots.

Pilots are seeking a clearer system for dealing with issues such as base allocation, annual leave and matters related to length of service. In other words conditions of service which the EU should be protecting. They have long complained of poor working conditions and meagre employment rights as a result of Ryanair’s model of employing them via third-party agencies.

Any further disruption could start to crystallise an image of Ryanair as a risky bet that makes paying an extra 10% or so for another airline seem like a good insurance policy.

One concern for Ryanair must be that any cancellation comes with the memory of last winter’s travails still relatively fresh. Thousands of passengers had their flights cancelled due to a blunder in the airline’s staffing roster.

Their brand is built on being reliable chaps whose parents weren't married when they were born. What the strikes threaten to do is question the reliability. They’re more resilient than others because they’ve never promised anything more than no-frills but deliver on what they promise.That also leaves them less margin for error, so when you get problems it threatens to affect your brand.

Personally I`m looking at Easyjet and Jet2 for August now due to the possibility of action escalating. I imagine I will not be alone.




German pilots are expected to vote over a pay and working conditions dispute later this month.
The 3rd part agency’s are not in disputed.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 12, 2018, 19:39:18 pm
stuff

from the same boring racist moron who said oleary would never allow unions in ryanair and denied they had to allow them legally.

why? lol well thats a EU law you see ;)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 12, 2018, 19:49:53 pm
There was a forum with some Master Baters
Plokers to the core, and people haters
They bitched and moaned always trying to bait
Turning the forum into something third rate

Britex was favourite, they had a byte ball
Trying to convince everyone, they knew it all,
The reality is, they haven’t a clue
Nobody does, we are all in the stew

Brightspark the resident troll, of the lowest order,
I believe he lives across the border,
With his many user names, he tries to wreak havoc
The reality is he is one sad faggot
.

Is this Shakespeare or Kilroy was here. 😀😀😀
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 12, 2018, 20:10:05 pm
Obviously Shaky spear
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 13, 2018, 08:28:33 am
Conspiracy theories still alive and kicking lol
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 14, 2018, 08:41:35 am
Well final weekend of the World Cup and England still playing, not many people would have thought that on here, but let’s hope this is not the end but just the beginning, come on England still proud.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 14, 2018, 09:39:02 am
They did your country proud and may still do some more.
It’s a shame that the usual mouth pieces had to turn this thread into something else and belittle them. The comments from these know all’s were Extremely caustic as usual. It would have been good if some useful observations and a bit of football banter had been allowed to develop and would have been enjoyable. But you won’t get that from these have beens. If they don’t get center stage they will spoil everything. They actually believe that because I’m not English I had no right to make any comment on the English team or wish them well. It proves how tunnelled their outlook is. I suppose they should be shown pity.
Unfortunately the dying wasp really has the most dangerous sting.
But I’m glad I started it ( the thread ) in spite of the usual Ass Holes.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 14, 2018, 09:46:25 am
There's an old saying in football ..you can only beat whats put in front of you. And very true it is. But after listening to the media hype describing them as heroes, I'd like to put things into perspective.

They had what most people viewed as an easy route to the final.
They were in a group with only one other decent team and came second of four.
They beat two minnow teams in the group and lost to the decent one.
They squeezed through on penalties against Colombia. Were probably the better team but were not totally convincing.
They beat an extremely poor Sweden side who frankly were not up for it.
They came up against Croatia who were up for it and lost for the second time in the tournament. Six games two losses.

Do I think its the start of something big for English football post World Cup ?...no not really. I wish I could say I did. Hope that assessment is not too caustic for you daggie. ;)

But hey you never know.

Nice to see you are so concerned about English football and Brexit dagwood.) I'm almost weeping with thankfulness. :D
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 14, 2018, 09:57:38 am
There's an old saying in football ..you can only beat whats put in front of you. And very true it is. But after listening to the media hype describing them as heroes, I'd like to put things into perspective.

They had what most people viewed as an easy route to the final.
They were in a group with only one other decent team and came second of four.
They beat two minnow teams in the group and lost to the decent one.
They squeezed through on penalties against Colombia. Were probably the better team but were not totally convincing.
They beat an extremely poor Sweden side who frankly were not up for it.
They came up against Croatia who were up for it and lost for the second time in the tournament. Six games two losses.

Do I think its the start of something big for English football post World Cup ?...no not really. I wish I could say I did. Hope that assessment is not too caustic for you daggie. ;)

But hey you never know.

Nice to see you are so concerned about English football and Brexit dagwood.) I'm almost weeping with thankfulness. :D



Damage limitation 😋
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 14, 2018, 10:16:18 am
There's an old saying in football ..you can only beat whats put in front of you. And very true it is. But after listening to the media hype describing them as heroes, I'd like to put things into perspective.

They had what most people viewed as an easy route to the final.
They were in a group with only one other decent team and came second of four.
They beat two minnow teams in the group and lost to the decent one.
They squeezed through on penalties against Colombia. Were probably the better team but were not totally convincing.
They beat an extremely poor Sweden side who frankly were not up for it.
They came up against Croatia who were up for it and lost for the second time in the tournament. Six games two losses.

Do I think its the start of something big for English football post World Cup ?...no not really. I wish I could say I did. Hope that assessment is not too caustic for you daggie. ;)

But hey you never know.

Nice to see you are so concerned about English football and Brexit dagwood.) I'm almost weeping with thankfulness. :D
I cannot find any post that even sujests that we would win the World Cup, only that we had pride in our national team, it obviose  you don’t but many millions not only in the uk but around the world have that same pride, so again I say no one is bothered what you think, I am starting to wonder if you really are English? Or just a pretender to the throne not the one the Queen sits on but the one you number two on as you sprout a load of sh-t
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 14, 2018, 10:51:14 am
Who said anything about winning it, certainly not me and I never accused you of saying they would either. It's about their performances along the way and how each of us translates it . Do we think they are heroes regardless, or do we take a deeper look at how it all went and be a little more reserved in our judgement. So you are of the opinion anyone critical of the National football team can't be English? LOL. Grow up man it's a game.

You can be proud of their limited achievements ...which I am, but you can also look at it logically ...which I do.

The only one spouting number two on top of their patriotic high horse is you.

As I said before who do you think you are that you feel I should be forced to look at it the same way as you.

I'll disregard dagwood as he is in full England football team grovelling mode at present. Give him time , he will move on to Brexit. ;)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 14, 2018, 11:08:45 am
How chuffed I am that your disregarding me at this time because that must mean that you sometimes actually don’t disregard me.
As for the other subject Trump and all tabloid press and pathetic fools like are doing it for me.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 14, 2018, 11:28:06 am
If I wanted to really discard you daggie I would block your posts like most of the others on here.

I wouldn't do that as you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I might not like yours but then you don't like mine. And sometimes, just sometimes the debate can override the arguments and we get somewhere.
I wish Mr Proud patriot could be a bit more easy going with other peoples ideas of how the football went instead of finger pointing with accusations of high treason for doubting their new found potential..
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 14, 2018, 11:35:44 am
How chuffed I am that your disregarding me at this time because that must mean that you sometimes actually don’t disregard me.
As for the other subject Trump and all tabloid press and pathetic fools like are doing it for me.
Your wasting your breath the man? Has to have the last word and he cannot give a sensible answer or no answer he try’s to make you look a fool by going on about your English or spelling
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 14, 2018, 11:44:23 am
That's it with you. Can't take much more of your silly incoherent posts.
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 14, 2018, 11:49:41 am
That's it with you. Can't take much more of your silly incoherent posts.
Point proven
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: vivafuerte on July 14, 2018, 11:52:32 am
sensible answer

the really?
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 14, 2018, 12:38:31 pm
If I wanted to really discard you daggie I would block your posts like most of the others on here.

I wouldn't do that as you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I might not like yours but then you don't like mine. And sometimes, just sometimes the debate can override the arguments and we get somewhere.
I wish Mr Proud patriot could be a bit more easy going with other peoples ideas of how the football went instead of finger pointing with accusations of high treason for doubting their new found potential..

So Daggie is entitled to his opinion as you are but I am not, is there something wrong with being a proud patriot
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: dagwood on July 14, 2018, 13:41:26 pm
If I wanted to really discard you daggie I would block your posts like most of the others on here.

I wouldn't do that as you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I might not like yours but then you don't like mine. And sometimes, just sometimes the debate can override the arguments and we get somewhere.
I wish Mr Proud patriot could be a bit more easy going with other peoples ideas of how the football went instead of finger pointing with accusations of high treason for doubting their new found potential..


The reason I wished to see England doing well is because every kid in Ireland with a talent for soccer, his dream is to be picked for a trial and go on to play for an English side, and a good few make it.
Also the many hours of enjoyment we get from English football each week either traveling to the matches or watching it on television.
It would be stupid to allow politics spoil all that
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: malabu on July 14, 2018, 19:50:13 pm
It really does not matter that football is not coming home what matters is it could have :)
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Tamkid on July 14, 2018, 22:47:24 pm
Yeah, if you live in France
Title: Re: Russia 🇷🇺
Post by: Ivemovedon on July 15, 2018, 11:03:19 am
 Enjoy the ride by all means but always be aware where the bus is going to terminate.
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Post by: erik_tonny on July 15, 2018, 16:46:28 pm
So Daggie is entitled to his opinion as you are but I am not, is there something wrong with being a proud patriot

Only if you are british ?
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Post by: malabu on July 15, 2018, 17:36:09 pm
I am
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Post by: dagwood on July 15, 2018, 18:28:49 pm
Well I hope you all enjoyed the World Cup as much as I did. Winners and loosers that’s what its all about.
 But I’m glad that I started this tread in spite of the usual suspects trying to cause mayhem.
 Viva la France 🇫🇷
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 15, 2018, 19:13:26 pm
Viva la France...that says it all about you daggie. If I was an Irishman I would wonder what the hell you were all about.

But then apparently you are an England supporter as well. Talk about a man of many faces. LOL
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Post by: dagwood on July 15, 2018, 19:37:54 pm
Don’t forget this forum is about a Spanish Island and I’m Irish. I wished England luck for the reasons I outlined but then the best team in the world won and I’m happy with that.
But then what would a bigoted looser like you know.
I know you’ll come back with some sort of drivel but looking at the way everything’s going so disappointingly for you at the moment we should cut you some slack.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 15, 2018, 20:07:05 pm
All is fab with me at the moment daggie. No problems whatsoever.

Semi final of a world cup, Just about to exit a corrupt organization.What's not to be happy about ?.

Plus in addition my third grandkids  first birthday is today and we are having a knees up with a few beers in the sunshine, while watching the final we wished we had been in.
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Post by: dagwood on July 15, 2018, 20:33:09 pm
All is fab with me at the moment daggie. No problems whatsoever.

Semi final of a world cup, Just about to exit a corrupt organization.What's not to be happy about ?.

Plus in addition my third grandkids  first birthday is today and we are having a knees up with a few beers in the sunshine, while watching the final we wished we had been in.


I hope you had a great day and congratulations on your 3rd grandchild. I wish the three of them a bright future.
Now one question, what the hell on the day that’s in it are you doing haveing an argument with an old fool like me.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 15, 2018, 20:39:31 pm
Thanks dag. It has been a good day. Apart from the froggies winning. But hey you cant have it all can you.
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Post by: dagwood on July 15, 2018, 20:42:59 pm
Normal service tomorrow?
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Post by: Ivemovedon on July 15, 2018, 20:52:14 pm
I think so don't you. ;)
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Post by: dagwood on July 16, 2018, 23:55:20 pm
One hell of a party 🍾🍸🍷in Paris today and tonight.