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Title: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: admin on February 04, 2011, 16:46:32 pm
This section has been long overdue.

Let us know via the 'Report to Moderator' link if people misbehave.
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Post by: appy ammer on February 04, 2011, 18:04:24 pm
i would like a fed up section aswell please;)
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Post by: swl on February 04, 2011, 21:47:12 pm
Can we have a Corralejo, El Cotillo etc section as well please? Restaurant reviews, places to stay etc, places to visit etc.
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Post by: chrisb on February 05, 2011, 14:59:46 pm
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Originally posted by Cameron

its been long overdue for who?.The 0.001% of gays who post on here?.



How about a whinging old fart section? Seems like 98.00% of those are on here. I am sure Cameron will have the statistics for that too? Surely Cameron you must have better things to do with your life like looking for one?

How the hell do you know how many gay people post on here? Oh yes I forgot that people suggesting a good place to eat out or those that have a vehicle to sell normally end the post with "BTW I'm Gay".

Take up a hobby Cameron!!
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Post by: chrisb on February 05, 2011, 17:51:02 pm
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Originally posted by Cameron

They don't end it with 'BTW i'm catholic' either do they and i'm sure theres a few of them about. The forums about comments,irrespective of if you approve or not. So kindly jog orf.



You didn't post a comment you posted a question. If you don't want answers then don't ask questions.

BTW I am a Catholic
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Post by: chrisb on February 05, 2011, 18:56:03 pm
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Originally posted by Cameron

do you want your own section



No thanks, I'm bored now
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Post by: charles100 on February 06, 2011, 10:07:12 am
Any Gay bars etc in caleta de fuste ? Or beach areas?
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Post by: appy ammer on February 06, 2011, 18:33:03 pm
why do gays need there own beach areas?
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Post by: njmw on February 07, 2011, 07:56:51 am
So the old forum sections dedicated to promoting the island, areas, accommodation, etc were removed ages ago, but we now have a dedicated gay section.

I'm no homophobe, but I can't really see this helping to promote the island, which I believe is the main reason for the forum?
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Post by: MinRich on February 07, 2011, 09:43:27 am
Well i agree with njmw. Get rid of this section. Fuerteventura is the name of the Site lets keep it about Fuerteventura please. Go back to the way it used to be a few years ago.
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Post by: fifi on February 10, 2011, 10:29:29 am
The President of the Canary Islands Paulino Rivero and the Minister for Tourism Aguedo Montelongo have been  actively trying to attract more Gay Tourism for the past couple of years. I think that the brass plate which Johnny99 posted (which was removed because it didnt fit the page) with an apology to the Gay community was  proof that they want to show that it is time to forget past discriminations and move on. I think this section is important.

You should re post your photos in a smaller size Jonny99 so they can be seen properly.[:)]
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Post by: admin on February 10, 2011, 20:10:49 pm
Jeez!

Who'd have thought such a simple thing would attract so much vitriol?

It's just a topic - if it is of no interest to people then don't click on it. Live and let live.

As for those complaining there is no section for this or that but there is for gays.. we have said elsewhere we are looking into it and considering how and what we shall do - please bear with us.
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Post by: SaxMan on February 20, 2011, 01:59:57 am
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Originally posted by Cameron

its been long overdue for who?.The 0.001% of gays who post on here?.



Do straight people mention their sexuality in every conversation? Do gay people mention likewise? People post on forums & others reply all the time without the slightest clue of sexuality, race, and (unless the username gives a clue) even gender.

What information does Cameron have to indicate what percentage of gay people post on here?

The Canary islands have long been a holdiay destination of choice of gay people - Gran Canaria in particular. The section is valid & thanks to Admin for putting it up. I've never been to Fuerte even though my parents lived there for a few years. Two needy dogs that I couldn't bear to put in to kennels prevented me visiting.

I don't know what the gay scene is like in Fuerte - so it follows that many other won't too. This section will no doubt, in time, help people find gay friendly bars, clubs, hotels, restaurants etc...

And yes, I'm gay (celebrated 10 year anniversary with my partner in Jan) but I guess nobody knew from MY previous posts. There you go Cameron... maybe we are 0.002% but then again who's counting? Does it matter? If a section helps out a minority group of tourists & residents then GOOD!
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Post by: MinRich on March 08, 2011, 20:15:01 pm
So this section was so greatly needed? Nobody has posted on it for nearly 2 weeks !
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Post by: chrisb on March 09, 2011, 10:46:32 am
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Originally posted by MinRich

So this section was so greatly needed? Nobody has posted on it for nearly 2 weeks !



Beach Reviews: 13 Jan 11
Resort Reviews: 27 Feb 11
House Owner Forum: 28 Feb 11
Small Ads: 2 April 09
Events: 8 Jan 11
Fue Forum Feedbacks 8 May 10
News about Fue Forum: 18 Sep 10
Fue forum feedback 19 Sep 09
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Post by: Oliver87 on March 09, 2011, 14:01:02 pm
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Originally posted by chrisb

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Originally posted by MinRich

So this section was so greatly needed? Nobody has posted on it for nearly 2 weeks !



Beach Reviews: 13 Jan 11
Resort Reviews: 27 Feb 11
House Owner Forum: 28 Feb 11
Small Ads: 2 April 09
Events: 8 Jan 11
Fue Forum Feedbacks 8 May 10
News about Fue Forum: 18 Sep 10
Fue forum feedback 19 Sep 09


LOL [^]





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Post by: Sunny Spain on March 09, 2011, 17:54:49 pm
Good point MinRich, it doesn't seem to have been needed as much as some thought.[8D]
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Post by: isleswing on March 11, 2011, 13:27:41 pm
We originally asked for a 'Contacts' section, to clean-up the Naturist section, as that was being missused, and offending naturists. In the same post, we suggested that 'someone may like to organise a section for the gay community', meaning a contact section for them, although it would be equally suitable to have a combined forum.
The only two reasons that gays may have for using this new section are: to make contact with each other: to rebuff the tiresome 'anti' comments to which they're being subjected. Other than that, their needs are no different to the rest of us.

I'd be very pleased to hear from any gay people who either agree or disagree with these sentiments
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Post by: fifi on March 12, 2011, 01:58:19 am
It is a shame that the Forum lost Jonnie99 as a poster. He was a great asset to the Forum with his wealth of knowledge about the Government offices. Hopefully he will return.[:)]
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Post by: Cameron on March 12, 2011, 10:42:57 am
he's probably doing a stretch)
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Post by: chrisb on March 12, 2011, 12:53:32 pm
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Originally posted by isleswing

The only two reasons that gays may have for using this new section are: to make contact with each other: to rebuff the tiresome 'anti' comments to which they're being subjected. Other than that, their needs are no different to the rest of us.

I'd be very pleased to hear from any gay people who either agree or disagree with these sentiments



Now the flames are dying down from this newly created section: I agree to an extent with your sentiments islewing. Too much emphasis is put on the sexual side of being Gay. Gay people get up in the morning, go to work, pay their taxes, go home, eat and sleep like most of the population. It is a sad situation that in 2011 gay people, amongst other vulnerable communities, continue to be targeted and beaten quite literally to death for who they are be it the colour of their skin, religion or sexual orientation.

So why a gay section? The old adage 'Birds of a feather flock together'. Generalising a bit here but; The Irish go to Irish bars, English go to English bars, young go to young bars, Spanish go to Spanish bars etc. It's about familiarity and feeling comfortable within your 'environment'. Nothing wrong with that despite those that think in a ideal world we can all integrate as one to live in perfect harmony. Wonderful sentiments but in reality this rarely exists. Having a gay section is not necessarily a vessel for making contact with each other, it is more of a statement that is saying to the gay community that in general they are welcome to the beautiful island of Fuerteventura without prejudice. Whilst you are here then these particular establishments may welcome you more than others, these particular beaches you may feel safe to hold the hand of your partner, this is where the gay community socialise, this is where it is the most 'gay friendly' This is why the Gay flag was created. It became a symbol stating that you are welcome and that this is a safe environment for you to be in and where you will find like minded individuals. Perhaps some may laugh at the flag concept but just have a look at your Irish/English/Welsh establishment and see what is flying inside and outside of  these places then ask yourself why?

So will Fuerteventura become another gay Gran Canaria/Sitges/Ibiza now it is being promoted as a gay tourist destination? I doubt it very much. Fuerteventura has a completely different environment and quality about it and one that attracts the more discerning traveller, a more mature financially better off gay tourist if you like. Fuerteventura is more appealing to couples or those that are looking for a far more relaxing holiday than other gay destinations offer. It is not heading for the sex tourists industry though no doubt there will be on the occasion, as it is in the straight community, the odd 'perv' that will insist on marring it for the rest.

Remember people that one 'Pink Euro' carries the same value as any other Euro. Statistically the gay community has a much larger disposable income and are generally more likely to spend it in what may be your bar/restaurant/villa? Utilise the gay section and this forum by actively promoting your business or villa to the gay community. You may be surprised by the potential this has for your own financial gain? Now I am sure that would have been welcomed throughout the recent recession! View this section with an open mind and not as a sexual encounter opportunity. It is a welcome sign to  the international gay community and it's friends and one that YOU may just benefit from?

On a last note:
Bar owners: Have a good stock of Gin and tonics in.
Villa owners: Please make sure that the cushions are plumped on arrival and that the net curtains are replaced by a stylish Austrian blind otherwise your reputation will be in ruins!

JOKING [:D]
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Post by: HH on March 12, 2011, 21:44:59 pm
'Peachy'  so the Romford Recorder has said ...
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Post by: chrisb on March 12, 2011, 21:48:49 pm
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you aint seen mine, i;ve been told mines round and cheeky;)
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You are very funny appy ammer [:D]
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Post by: isleswing on March 14, 2011, 16:36:06 pm
Thank you for such a considered and  eloquent reply. Cannot disagree with a single thing you say. Just a shame that others cannot post similarly.
We recently stayed in a B&B which turned out to be run by a gay couple. That fact was completely irrelevant to our stay: it was completely normal in every way (though maybe a bit more tasteful than others).
Now, it would be great if this section can be kept onlt to the relevant topics.


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Now the flames are dying down from this newly created section: I agree to an extent with your sentiments islewing. Too much emphasis is put on the sexual side of being Gay. Gay people get up in the morning, go to work, pay their taxes, go home, eat and sleep like most of the population. It is a sad situation that in 2011 gay people, amongst other vulnerable communities, continue to be targeted and beaten quite literally to death for who they are be it the colour of their skin, religion or sexual orientation.

So why a gay section? The old adage 'Birds of a feather flock together'. Generalising a bit here but; The Irish go to Irish bars, English go to English bars, young go to young bars, Spanish go to Spanish bars etc. It's about familiarity and feeling comfortable within your 'environment'. Nothing wrong with that despite those that think in a ideal world we can all integrate as one to live in perfect harmony. Wonderful sentiments but in reality this rarely exists. Having a gay section is not necessarily a vessel for making contact with each other, it is more of a statement that is saying to the gay community that in general they are welcome to the beautiful island of Fuerteventura without prejudice. Whilst you are here then these particular establishments may welcome you more than others, these particular beaches you may feel safe to hold the hand of your partner, this is where the gay community socialise, this is where it is the most 'gay friendly' This is why the Gay flag was created. It became a symbol stating that you are welcome and that this is a safe environment for you to be in and where you will find like minded individuals. Perhaps some may laugh at the flag concept but just have a look at your Irish/English/Welsh establishment and see what is flying inside and outside of  these places then ask yourself why?

So will Fuerteventura become another gay Gran Canaria/Sitges/Ibiza now it is being promoted as a gay tourist destination? I doubt it very much. Fuerteventura has a completely different environment and quality about it and one that attracts the more discerning traveller, a more mature financially better off gay tourist if you like. Fuerteventura is more appealing to couples or those that are looking for a far more relaxing holiday than other gay destinations offer. It is not heading for the sex tourists industry though no doubt there will be on the occasion, as it is in the straight community, the odd 'perv' that will insist on marring it for the rest.

Remember people that one 'Pink Euro' carries the same value as any other Euro. Statistically the gay community has a much larger disposable income and are generally more likely to spend it in what may be your bar/restaurant/villa? Utilise the gay section and this forum by actively promoting your business or villa to the gay community. You may be surprised by the potential this has for your own financial gain? Now I am sure that would have been welcomed throughout the recent recession! View this section with an open mind and not as a sexual encounter opportunity. It is a welcome sign to  the international gay community and it's friends and one that YOU may just benefit from?

On a last note:
Bar owners: Have a good stock of Gin and tonics in.
Villa owners: Please make sure that the cushions are plumped on arrival and that the net curtains are replaced by a stylish Austrian blind otherwise your reputation will be in ruins!

JOKING [:D]

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Post by: Oliver87 on March 18, 2011, 12:38:31 pm
Nice post. Im a young 23 y/o gay guy coming to fuert in June. Even though I'm not the type to go to gran canaria or any destination that has an emphasis on being a GAY resort if you like, I would still like that acceptance from the local people and tourists/holiday people. Having this forum is just what gay people need to show them that even though the place is not full of men in drag, swinging from streetlights at 6 in the morning after leaving the local club, it can be a safe heaven for us.

I suppose because I'm not the camp , gay scene, loud and proud gay and I like sport and sport/cars/bikes etc that I may have different views to what acceptance means. On return from my holiday this year I will definately give some feedback on how "accepting" fuerteventura was.

Please keep this section alive as I feel no matter where in the world there needs to be some sort of voice for gay people.

Ollie
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Post by: Cameron on March 18, 2011, 14:17:52 pm
how will they even know your gay unless you make a point of telling them ?
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Post by: Oliver87 on March 18, 2011, 15:20:03 pm
Forgot to mention I will be going with my partner. We never hide our relationship and it will be obvious to people we are an item from holding hands and kissing as every couple do. Soz post was lacking vital info lol.
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Post by: Cameron on March 18, 2011, 19:19:54 pm
what with everyone enjoying their own holidays i doubt you'll even be noticed.
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Post by: chrisb on March 18, 2011, 21:00:53 pm
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Originally posted by Oliver87

Forgot to mention I will be going with my partner. We never hide our relationship and it will be obvious to people we are an item from holding hands and kissing as every couple do. Soz post was lacking vital info lol.



Ignore Cameron he has an opinion on an opinion. If everyone agreed with him then we would all be wrong [:D]  I hope you and the BF have a great time in Fuerteventura [8D]
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Post by: Cameron on March 18, 2011, 21:27:01 pm
my condolences to the wife chrisb. she has my utmost sympathy. LOL
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Post by: chrisb on March 18, 2011, 22:02:17 pm
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my condolences to the wife chrisb. she has my utmost sympathy. LOL



How sensitive and considerate of you Cameron. If my tear ducts were working I would no doubt have shed a little tear by now [:D]
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Post by: Cameron on March 19, 2011, 05:51:53 am
the thought of its making my eyes water too)
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Post by: Oliver87 on March 19, 2011, 09:34:56 am
It's ok Chris I'm sure Cameron has lots of spare time on his hands to be pedantic about things. It's not his fault. Thanks im sure this visit will be as good as my last when I was younger.
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Post by: Cameron on March 19, 2011, 10:45:19 am
Actually my time is very precious ( a bit like chrisby ). You should be thankful i've spent some of it advising you.
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Post by: Oliver87 on March 19, 2011, 12:05:55 pm
Camoren I was joking and having a bit of banter with u no need for the seriousness.
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Post by: Cameron on March 19, 2011, 12:17:55 pm
so was i Ollie. Have a good hol.
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Post by: Oliver87 on March 19, 2011, 23:35:54 pm
Thanks I will Cameron.  The place is awesome from what I remember and of I like it ill be looking to set up a business there next year.
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Post by: MinRich on June 12, 2013, 10:18:04 am
So the old forum sections dedicated to promoting the island, areas, accommodation, etc were removed ages ago, but we now have a dedicated gay section.

I'm no homophobe, but I can't really see this helping to promote the island, which I believe is the main reason for the forum?

Exactly - Look what a great and useful section it has been , to the detriment of the Forum i think .

The only reason for a Gay section would be for Sexual reasons ?
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Post by: bedouin on June 12, 2013, 15:45:38 pm
So the old forum sections dedicated to promoting the island, areas, accommodation, etc were removed ages ago, but we now have a dedicated gay section.

I'm no homophobe, but I can't really see this helping to promote the island, which I believe is the main reason for the forum?

Exactly - Look what a great and useful section it has been , to the detriment of the Forum i think .

The only reason for a Gay section would be for Sexual reasons ?

Whilst your prejudice is obvious, you should look at bit closer at the facts.  The lesbian & gay market for tourism is huge - and lesbian/gay tourists spend much more per head on average than other tourists.  Although not unaffected by recession, the lesbian/gay community still has very high levels of disposable income, a lot of which they spend on travel.  Having a gay section on this forum undoubtedly helps to create the impression that Fuerteventura welcomes lesbian & gay tourists, and this can only boost the island's economy.
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Post by: KWC on June 12, 2013, 15:55:56 pm
So the old forum sections dedicated to promoting the island, areas, accommodation, etc were removed ages ago, but we now have a dedicated gay section.

I'm no homophobe, but I can't really see this helping to promote the island, which I believe is the main reason for the forum?

Exactly - Look what a great and useful section it has been , to the detriment of the Forum i think .

The only reason for a Gay section would be for Sexual reasons ?

Whilst your prejudice is obvious, you should look at bit closer at the facts.  The lesbian & gay market for tourism is huge - and lesbian/gay tourists spend much more per head on average than other tourists.  Although not unaffected by recession, the lesbian/gay community still has very high levels of disposable income, a lot of which they spend on travel.  Having a gay section on this forum undoubtedly helps to create the impression that Fuerteventura welcomes lesbian & gay tourists, and this can only boost the island's economy.

Thats all very well, and they would be made very welcome by all, im sure.   But not if they keep the advertising for sex/fun et al off these pages.

 You Gays guys are missing the point here, its the blatant "can we meet for a bit of this and that", that is more off putting, and has no place on a public forum of this nature.

Surely you can understand that - yes?
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Post by: bedouin on June 12, 2013, 17:00:21 pm
You Gays guys are missing the point here, its the blatant "can we meet for a bit of this and that", that is more off putting, and has no place on a public forum of this nature.

Just for the record, I'm not gay, I'm very happily married.  However, unlike some, I'm certainly not homophobic.  The demands to delete the "Gay" section of the forum are ludicrous; if people object to certain posts, they're at liberty to use the "Report to moderator" link to request that the post be removed or edited.
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Post by: MinRich on June 12, 2013, 17:20:51 pm
So the old forum sections dedicated to promoting the island, areas, accommodation, etc were removed ages ago, but we now have a dedicated gay section.

I'm no homophobe, but I can't really see this helping to promote the island, which I believe is the main reason for the forum?

Exactly - Look what a great and useful section it has been , to the detriment of the Forum i think .

The only reason for a Gay section would be for Sexual reasons ?

Whilst your prejudice is obvious, you should look at bit closer at the facts.  The lesbian & gay market for tourism is huge - and lesbian/gay tourists spend much more per head on average than other tourists.  Although not unaffected by recession, the lesbian/gay community still has very high levels of disposable income, a lot of which they spend on travel.  Having a gay section on this forum undoubtedly helps to create the impression that Fuerteventura welcomes lesbian & gay tourists, and this can only boost the island's economy.

Where are the statistics to prove your point about gay tourists having very high levels of disposable income ? I am not prejuduced at all , this section is not needed and will continue to say so . It attracts the wrong topics about sex and that is bad for the forum as a whole .
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Post by: MinRich on June 12, 2013, 17:26:53 pm
You Gays guys are missing the point here, its the blatant "can we meet for a bit of this and that", that is more off putting, and has no place on a public forum of this nature.

Just for the record, I'm not gay, I'm very happily married.  However, unlike some, I'm certainly not homophobic.  The demands to delete the "Gay" section of the forum are ludicrous; if people object to certain posts, they're at liberty to use the "Report to moderator" link to request that the post be removed or edited.

Why are the "looking for sex" posts on the gay section then ? They are not under the quesries and questions part ? Surely they are only aimed at the gay community ? Asking for the post to be removed doesn't stop it from being posted in the first place . I am not Homophobic , i am a against distasteful threads and posts on a Holiday resort forum as this is what this forum is , not a dating site or anything similar . I only object to the distasteful bits and this should be obvious . Having asked admin to delete the other post/thread some time ago it doesn't appear to have been deleted , does it ? Why not ?
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Post by: bedouin on June 12, 2013, 17:32:01 pm
Where are the statistics to prove your point about gay tourists having very high levels of disposable income ? I am not prejuduced at all , this section is not needed and will continue to say so . It attracts the wrong topics about sex and that is bad for the forum as a whole .

Just Google gay tourism spend and you'll find loads of information.  You may not think you're prejudiced, but your posts suggest otherwise.  As I've said, if a post offends you, simply report it to the moderators.  Have you done that?
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Post by: bedouin on June 12, 2013, 17:41:11 pm
I am not Homophobic , i am a against distasteful threads and posts on a Holiday resort forum as this is what this forum is , not a dating site or anything similar . I only object to the distasteful bits and this should be obvious . Having asked admin to delete the other post/thread some time ago it doesn't appear to have been deleted , does it ? Why not ?

I can't tell you why it hasn't been removed, only the moderators can answer that.  Perhaps they don't share your views.

There are all sorts of distasteful posts on public forums, if you don't like them maybe the answer is not to look at public forums.  Personally, I think it's inappropriate that there's a thread in Queries n Questions section on where to buy cannabis, but I wouldn't dream of asking for it to be removed just because I don't agree with it.
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Post by: MinRich on June 12, 2013, 18:01:25 pm
I am not Homophobic , i am a against distasteful threads and posts on a Holiday resort forum as this is what this forum is , not a dating site or anything similar . I only object to the distasteful bits and this should be obvious . Having asked admin to delete the other post/thread some time ago it doesn't appear to have been deleted , does it ? Why not ?

I can't tell you why it hasn't been removed, only the moderators can answer that.  Perhaps they don't share your views.

There are all sorts of distasteful posts on public forums, if you don't like them maybe the answer is not to look at public forums.  Personally, I think it's inappropriate that there's a thread in Queries n Questions section on where to buy cannabis, but I wouldn't dream of asking for it to be removed just because I don't agree with it.

Well the Police were importing it so there's a clue there perhaps ?
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Post by: bedouin on June 12, 2013, 18:07:33 pm
Well the Police were importing it so there's a clue there perhaps ?

That has nothing to do with the point I made, as you well know.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 13, 2013, 16:04:29 pm
You Gays guys are missing the point here, its the blatant "can we meet for a bit of this and that", that is more off putting, and has no place on a public forum of this nature.

Just for the record, I'm not gay, I'm very happily married.  However, unlike some, I'm certainly not homophobic.  The demands to delete the "Gay" section of the forum are ludicrous; if people object to certain posts, they're at liberty to use the "Report to moderator" link to request that the post be removed or edited.

Commendably liberal views tiger but just a tad up your own ar*e.

Unlike others on here who appear more interested in getting up sombody elses.
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Post by: bedouin on June 13, 2013, 17:52:09 pm
Commendably liberal views tiger but just a tad up your own ar*e.

Liberal? I don't think so, I'd say my view is practical.  And isn't it interesting how people resort to personal insults when presented with common sense answers they don't like?
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 13, 2013, 18:16:08 pm
Maybe in your eyes, but nah not common sense and certainly not practical . Just the usual trawled out homophobic accusations against those who find sexual procurement offensive on a public forum. And i might add any sexual procurement not specifically homosexual. So you miss the point completely my friend as do most of those of your ilk who try just a little too hard to be 'gay friendly' despite being 'happily married'.

And my previous post wasn't intended as an insult ....just an observation.
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Post by: bedouin on June 13, 2013, 18:48:34 pm
Maybe in your eyes, but nah not common sense and certainly not practical . Just the usual trawled out homophobic accusations against those who find sexual procurement offensive on a public forum. And i might add any sexual procurement not specifically homosexual. So you miss the point completely my friend as do most of those of your ilk who try just a little too hard to be 'gay friendly' despite being 'happily married'.

And my previous post wasn't intended as an insult ....just an observation.

So my suggestion to report offensive posts to the moderators isn't practical?  How else would you get them removed or edited?  Will power?  A lot of people on here seem more interested in getting their post count up than in contributing sensibly to the forum.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 13, 2013, 19:11:46 pm
You dont have a gay section in the first place. Thats how you get round it. I might be the only one but positive discrimination as it is trendily now called is not my style. You know.. where one gender, race or religeon is given preference over another. So no heterosexual section or bisexual section, then no gay section either. Makes sense to me. Everyone happy except for maybe a few over indulged homosexual forum members. And more to the point who in their right mind thinks there should be ANY sexual orientation section on a holiday website anyway.
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Post by: bedouin on June 13, 2013, 19:20:05 pm
You dont have a gay section in the first place. Thats how you get round it. I might be the only one but positive discrimination as it is trendily now called is not my style. You know.. where one gender, race or religeon is given preference over another. So no heterosexual section or bisexual section, then no gay section either. Makes sense to me. Everyone happy except for maybe a few over indulged homosexual forum members. And more to the point who in their right mind thinks there should be ANY sexual orientation section on a holiday website anyway.

But there are "looking to meet up" posts in other sections, too, such as Queries n Questions and Naturism - presumably you'd want to ditch those sections too.  In fact, the Naturism section is surely another example of what you've called positive discrimination, isn't it?

As for whether there should be a gay section on a holiday forum, I've already highlighted the fact that gay/lesbian tourists have significantly greater spending power.  Surely therefore encouraging them to visit Fuerteventura can only be good for the island.  At the end of the day, isn't one main objective of this forum to encourage tourism?
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 13, 2013, 19:25:07 pm
No naturism is or should be a pastime not sexual orientation. And most meet up posts in other sections are for a chat or a drink not a shag. Get real mate.
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Post by: Ivemovedon on June 13, 2013, 20:15:15 pm
Oh i'm really glad you highlighted it. That makes it a compulsory viewpoint for the rest of us then. Fraid not. We could encourage paedophiles if we wanted to. Just give them their own section, i'm sure they've got plenty of money to spend on Fuerteventura. You either just don't get it or you just simply refuse to .

YOU DON'T SHOW PREFERENCE TO ONE SEXUAL ORIENTATION OVER ANOTHER. Minrich will tell you. ITS AGAINST THE LAW. (So they say)
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: bedouin on June 13, 2013, 20:41:07 pm
You either just don't get it or you just simply refuse to .

Perhaps I'm just not as blinkered as some...
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: Ivemovedon on June 13, 2013, 20:52:54 pm
Maybe your not. But by the same token those that don't agree with gay sexual content on sites that have nothing to do with it don't deserve to be vilified as intolerant homophobes by people such as yourself.
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: bedouin on June 13, 2013, 21:04:02 pm
Maybe your not. But by the same token those that don't agree with gay sexual content on sites that have nothing to do with it don't deserve to be vilified as intolerant homophobes by people such as yourself.

Now you're confusing two different issues.  The point which I keep making (and which you keep ignoring) is that if people disapprove of posts on this forum, they need to report the posts to the moderators.  If the moderators decide to take no action, the complainants can then decide whether to keep using the forum, or to abandon it.  As for homophobes, they undoubtedly exist here, just read some of the posts.
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: KWC on June 13, 2013, 21:48:35 pm
One question tiger et al, forget the resistance to the gay section on here, just answer me this!

Do you think it correct that the scribes to the gay section shout tout for sex the way they have done?
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: bedouin on June 13, 2013, 21:53:12 pm
One question tiger et al, forget the resistance to the gay section on here, just answer me this!

Do you think it correct that the scribes to the gay section shout tout for sex the way they have done?

There are very few posts of that nature. I think they're inappropriate, and (if reported to the moderators by those who find them offensive) should be edited out.  But the problem isn't confined to the Gay section, there have been swinger and other "let's meet" posts in other sections. 
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: KWC on June 14, 2013, 08:22:02 am
One question tiger et al, forget the resistance to the gay section on here, just answer me this!

Do you think it correct that the scribes to the gay section shout tout for sex the way they have done?

There are very few posts of that nature. I think they're inappropriate, and (if reported to the moderators by those who find them offensive) should be edited out.  But the problem isn't confined to the Gay section, there have been swinger and other "let's meet" posts in other sections.

Admission that its inappropriate is a good start. Little baby steps till we all get there.

In other words perhaps the Gay section would have been tolerated that tiny bit more! if it wasn't for the Gay Prostitute seeking a "good time" in the dunes etc.  Thats what has riled everyone up.  And to suggest that the members who are meeting up also on the island, and suggesting that they should be brought to task is absolutley nonsense - as you well know.  Its harmless banter/fun call it what you wish and nothing else.

Now before you ask me if I have reported it to admin - yes I did.  Did I get a reply or a result, no I didn't.

Hence our own crusade to rid the (at least within the section concerned) the sleaze and sexual offerings that our youngsters can view on here.  As been said many times before, its a holiday isle forum and thats the way it should stay.

I for one, will report all  sexual advertisment/sleaze, to the best of my ability, banter excluded of course.

Now what camp are you in now?
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: bedouin on June 14, 2013, 09:07:41 am
Easy, I said it was inappropriate, I didn't say I found it offensive.  If you're offended by stuff like that, perhaps playing on public forums isn't a good idea for you!  Moderators generally have a fairly good idea of where to draw the line, if they haven't reacted to your complaint it's because they don't agree with you.
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: MinRich on June 14, 2013, 11:11:57 am
Even admin had an idea there would be a problem - look at their text at the top of this thread

They have now at least given a bit of instruction pinned to the top

They state "Over the years" , Its only been on here 2 years ! and been a pain to the existing users ever since .
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: KWC on June 14, 2013, 11:41:13 am
Still think it should be removed, from what is a family orientated holiday site.

There is (I guess) hundreds of sites that will cater for the Gay community, why on earth do we have one on here.  Gays can still look in like everyone else to see whats happening with the weather/news and even the Dross section.    Why the need for this is beyond me and I will never agree otherwise.

Tough poo poo to those I upset or doesn't agree with my feelings, its the way I was brought up - old fashioned virtues.  Man like women/women like men and all that.

Its a bl00dy holiday forum/site for gods sake!
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: Biggles on June 14, 2013, 12:59:02 pm
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its the way I was brought up - old fashioned virtues
Ah the good old days. I was brought up with old fashioned virtues too:

The Death Penalty.
'Spare the rod , spoil the child' - child bashing
Sexism
A woman's place is in the home - wife rape, wife bashing.
Overt racism - Pakie bashing.
Imprisonment of homosexuals - Poof bashing.
Smoking in confined public places - cinemas, aeroplanes etc.
The glorification of war.
etc. etc

Time to reappraise and move on though.
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: KWC on June 14, 2013, 14:33:53 pm
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its the way I was brought up - old fashioned virtues
Ah the good old days. I was brought up with old fashioned virtues too:

The Death Penalty.
'Spare the rod , spoil the child' - child bashing
Sexism
A woman's place is in the home - wife rape, wife bashing.
Overt racism - Pakie bashing.
Imprisonment of homosexuals - Poof bashing.
Smoking in confined public places - cinemas, aeroplanes etc.
The glorification of war.
etc. etc

Time to reappraise and move on though.

Totally agree with you, never agreed to all the either funnily enough!
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: Ivemovedon on June 14, 2013, 14:59:13 pm
The main point is there shouldn't even BE a gay section. The pick up and sex messages whatever are a side issue.

As already said promoting just one particular sex orientation is devisive and by its very presence discriminates against all others that are not deemed worthy of inclusion. Lets have em all why don't we, bisexuals, sado masochists, paedophiles, swingers, necrophiliacs, theres a whole host of them. Why only gay.?. Because as we all know its trendy and 'in fashion' to be gay friendly these days. Unfortunately admin fell for it.
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: Phaedra on June 14, 2013, 15:29:22 pm
I'm straight and I have gay and bisexual friends. (perhaps more than I realise).
If this site helps incoming gays find bars and hotels that are gay-friendly where's the harm?

What confuses me are the many references to paedophilia from homophobes. Why continually make that ridiculous connection?

Why so much hostility?

Why go on about 'families'? Where do you think gays come from?
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: Ivemovedon on June 14, 2013, 16:45:56 pm
No hostility, justwhat i beleive is common sense.

I think we all know a gay person somewhere along the line. As for myself i have a female relative who is gay. and i love her dearly.

Despite that i don't think, and i'm sure she wouldn't either, that a forum dedicated to Fuerteventura is an appropriate place to promote her sexuallity.

The reference to paedophiles etc is in recognition of the fact the homosexuality is just one of a large number of different sexual appetites.

Not sure about the 'families ' bit you got me there.

Hope that clarifys it.
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: admin on June 14, 2013, 18:54:54 pm
There are a few posts stating that they've fruitlessly complained to admin.
This SMF forum keeps track and lists all Moderator Reports.
I've looked through them and failed to find the complaints that have been referred to.

Please use the 'report to moderator' link to highlight problem posts.

Having said that I've just waded through almost ALL the posts in this section and removed two mildly suggestive innuendos from gays and several not-so-mild from anti-gays so the problem may be solved.
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: bedouin on June 14, 2013, 18:56:44 pm
Guess the truth slowly emerges...
Title: Re: Sorry for the slight delay.
Post by: admin on June 14, 2013, 19:05:33 pm
I've been through every post now,

This thread is over 2 years old now - locked topic.